Portsmouth City Borough Council Scrutiny Management Panel Meeting

Sept. 15, 2021, 10 a.m.

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This is a meeting of the Scrutiny Management Panel of Portsmouth City Borough Council held on the 15th Sep 2021.

The last meeting of the Scrutiny Management Panel was on the 5th Feb 2024, and the next meeting will be .

Meeting Status

Confirmed; Special Meeting

Agenda Published

Yes

Decisions Published

No

Minutes Published

Yes

Meeting Location

Council Chamber - The Guildhall

Meeting Recordings

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Agenda

Item Title Minutes
1 Apologies for Absence

Apologies were received from Cllr Graham Heaney, Cllr Leo Madden and Cllr Rob Wood.

 

Cllr Ian Holder was present as standing deputy for Cllr Rob Wood.

2 Declarations of Members' Interests

There were no declarations of interest.

3 Call in of decision taken by Cabinet on 22 June 2021 in respect of item 10 on that agenda : Appointments to Outside Organisations Call-in report - Outside Appointments 15.09.21
Appendix 1 - Positions Due for Renewal Cab Version 2021_Nominations
Appendix 2 - Decisions 22062021 1200 Cabinet
Appendix 3 - Call-in Procedure
Appendix 4a - Reasons for call in Outside Bodies
Appendix 5 - Part-4E-Appointments-to-Outside-Bodies -Political-Proportionality-Protocol
Appendix 4b Redacted Call In Outside Bodies

The Chair explained that five members of the Council, Matthew Atkins, Ryan Brent, Hannah Hockaday, Lee Mason and Daniel Wemyss had asked for the decision taken by Cabinet on 22 June 2021 in respect of Appointments to Outside Bodies be called in for scrutiny on the basis that they believe that the decision may have been taken based may have been taken without adequate information (of which the nature had been identified).

 

The Call-in process had been ruled valid by the City Solicitor.

 

The Chair advised that if the panel was satisfied that the decision had not been taken without adequate information being supplied to enable the Cabinet to reach its decision, then no further action was required.

 

If the panel was not satisfied on these grounds, it could refer the matter back to the Cabinet for reconsideration, setting out in writing the nature of its concerns that are to be addressed in conjunction with the original matter.

 

The Chair further explained that the procedure to be followed at the meeting had been included Appendix 3 to the agenda.

 

The Chair advised that no written deputations had been received.

 

Councillor Wemyss, a signatory to the Call-in, outlined the reasons for the Call-in (set out in full on the Call-in form at Appendix 4).

 

The Call-in Councillors believed that the decisions made by Cabinet in respect of certain appointments to outside bodies were defective in two regards:

 

1.    They were in breach of the Appointments to Outside Bodies and organisations, Charities etc - Political Proportionality Protocol which is Part 4E of the Constitution of Portsmouth City Council; and

 

2.    The Cabinet failed to consider the Appointments to Outside Bodies and organisations, Charities etc - Political Proportionality Protocol which is Part 4E of the Constitution of Portsmouth City Council when making the decision.

 

In respect of Point 1, the decisions to appoint Steve Pitt and Terry Hall to the Portsmouth Naval Base Property Trust and the decision to appoint Councillors Hugh Mason and Rob Wood to the King's Theatre Trust Ltd were in breach of rules 6 and 7 of the Protocol. The appointments were in breach of point 7 in that the appointments should be in accordance with proportionality rules where two or more appointments are to be made. They were also in breach of the implication of rule 6 that appointments should be Portsmouth City Councillors.

 

The appointments of former Councillors David Fuller to the Fratton Community Association and Matthew Winnington to the Eastney Area Community Association were in breach of rule 4 of the Protocol that appointments to local associations should be ward Councillors.

In respect of Point 2, the decision of the Cabinet was made without adequate information because the Cabinet failed to consider the Appointments to Outside Bodies and organisations, Charities etc - Political Proportionality Protocol when making their decisions. This remained a core policy of the Council and should have been considered when making the decisions which it governs.

 

He believed that the appointments were wrong and awarded those who had served the current administration with positions of influence.  In respect of the Portsmouth Naval Base Property Trust these appointments were remunerated.  Where money was involved, he believed that the public had a right to know why a democratically elected councillor had not been appointed.

 

No members of the panel had questions for Cllr Wemyss.

 

The Leader of the Council, Councillor Gerald Vernon-Jackson gave his response and confirmed that whilst he was happy for the matter to be reconsidered by Cabinet, he did not accept the reasons for the Call-in. 

 

He stated that the process in making the appointments had mirrored the precedent followed in previous years by the previous administration.  He confirmed that a Milton councillor would be appointed to the Eastney Community Centre, as this was within the Milton Ward.

 

He closed by explaining that the individuals selected had been appointed because they were believed to be the best able to fulfil the roles.

 

In response to questions from the panel Cllr Vernon-Jackson confirmed that:

 

·        He didn't believe that Part 4E of the Council's Constitution had ever been attached to the Outside Bodies report;

·        He believed that the inclusion of this document would be beneficial for future Outside Body appointment reports; and

·        He would welcome feedback from those appointed to Outside Bodies, but he couldn't recall this having been undertaken under the previous administration; and

·        Confirmed that two former councillors had been appointed to the Eastney Area Community Association and Fratton Community Association rather than one of the six ward councillors had been in part due to a lack of nominations from ward members.  Traditionally an Eastney & Craneswater councillor had been appointed to the Eastney Area Community Association, but he was happy for a Milton Councillor to be appointed.

 

In response to the replies from the Leader the Chairman confirmed that he had previously produced reports when he had sat on an Outside Body.

 

There being no further questions, Cllr Wemyss summed up the case on behalf of the Call-in councillors. In doing so he reiterated the view that the reasons for call-in should be upheld and that the matter referred back to Cabinet for re consideration.

 

The Lead Cabinet Member summed up his response to the call-in stating that he was happy for Cabinet to reconsider the matter and that the protocol appended to future reports would be useful.

 

During debate the panel recognised that the Leader was happy for the matter to be reconsidered by Cabinet and believed that this would be the appropriate resolution.

 

 

 

it was

proposed by Councillor Payter-Harris

and seconded by Councillor Symes

 

that the reasons for the Call-in are upheld by the Scrutiny Management Panel and it therefore refers the matter back to Cabinet for reconsideration.

On being put to the vote this was CARRIED.

 

RESOLVED that the Panel having considered the evidence decided that the reasons for the Call-in are upheld by the Scrutiny Management Panel and it therefore refers the matter back to Cabinet for reconsideration.

Meeting Attendees

Councillor Gerald Vernon-Jackson CBE photo
Cabinet Member
Cabinet Member for Transport
Councillor Gerald Vernon-Jackson CBE

Liberal Democrat

Present, as expected

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Councillor Ian Holder photo
Standing Deputy
Cabinet Member for Safety in the Community
Councillor Ian Holder

Liberal Democrat

Present, as substitute

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Councillor Lee Hunt photo
Standing Deputy
Cabinet Member for Resources
Councillor Lee Hunt

Liberal Democrat

Not required

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Councillor Leo Madden photo
Committee Member
Councillor Leo Madden

Liberal Democrat

Apologies

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Councillor Stuart Brown photo
Committee Member
Councillor Stuart Brown

Liberal Democrat

Present, as expected

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Committee Member
Deputy Lord Mayor
Councillor Rob Wood

LIBDEM

Apologies

Councillor Cal Corkery photo
Standing Deputy
Group Leader
Councillor Cal Corkery

Independent

Not required

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Councillor George Fielding photo
Committee Member
Councillor George Fielding

Labour

Present, as expected

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Councillor Graham Heaney photo
Committee Member
Deputy Leader of the Labour Group
Councillor Graham Heaney

Labour

Apologies

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Councillor Judith Smyth photo
Standing Deputy
Councillor Judith Smyth

Labour

Not required

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Councillor Daniel Wemyss photo
Standing Deputy
Councillor Daniel Wemyss

Conservative

Present, as expected

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Councillor Matthew Atkins photo
Standing Deputy
Councillor Matthew Atkins

Conservative

Not required

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Councillor Simon Bosher photo
Chair
Leader of the Conservative Group
Councillor Simon Bosher

Conservative

Present, as expected

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Committee Member
Councillor Linda Symes

CON

Present, as expected

Committee Member
Councillor Scott Payter-Harris

CON

Present, as expected

Committee Member
Councillor Jo Hooper

CON

Present, as expected

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Future Committee Meetings

Source

This meeting detail is from Portsmouth City Borough Council website