Hampshire County Council
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Meeting
Economy, Transport and Environment Select Committee - Hampshire
Meeting Times
Scheduled Time
Start:
Thursday, 31st March 2022
2:45 PM
Thursday, 31st March 2022
2:45 PM
End:
Thursday, 31st March 2022
6:45 PM
Thursday, 31st March 2022
6:45 PM
Actual Time
Started:
Thursday, 31st March 2022
12:00 AM
Thursday, 31st March 2022
12:00 AM
Finished:
Thursday, 31st March 2022
12:00 AM
Thursday, 31st March 2022
12:00 AM
Meeting Status
Status:
Confirmed; Call-In meeting
Confirmed; Call-In meeting
Date:
31 Mar 2022
31 Mar 2022
Location:
Ashburton Hall - HCC
Ashburton Hall - HCC
Meeting Attendees
Committee Member
Independent Group Spokesperson
Liberal Democrats Spokesperson
Committee Member
Leader of the Council
Committee Member
Councillor Gary Hughes
Present, as expected
Committee Member
Independent Group Deputy
Agenda
1
Apologies for absence
To receive any apologies for absence.
Minutes
Apologies were received from Councillors Derek Mellor, Rhydian Vaughan and Rupert Kyrle. Councillor Dominic Hiscock attended as a deputy for Councillor Kyrle.
2
Declarations of interest
All Members who believe they have a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest in any matter to be considered at the meeting must declare that interest and, having regard to Part 3 Paragraph 1.5 of the County Council's Members’ Code of Conduct, leave the meeting while the matter is discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with Paragraph 1.6 of the Code. Furthermore all Members with a Personal Interest in a matter being considered at the meeting should consider, having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 4 of the Code, whether such interest should be declared, and having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 5 of the Code, consider whether it is appropriate to leave the meeting while the matter is discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with the Code.
Minutes
Members were mindful that where they believed they had a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest in any matter considered at the meeting they must declare that interest at the time of the relevant debate and, having regard to the circumstances described in Part 3, Paragraph 1.5 of the County Council's Members' Code of Conduct, leave the meeting while the matter was discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with Paragraph 1.6 of the Code. Furthermore Members were mindful that where they believed they had a Non-Pecuniary interest in a matter being considered at the meeting they considered whether such interest should be declared, and having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 2 of the Code, considered whether it was appropriate to leave the meeting whilst the matter was discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with the Code.
Councillor Martin Tod declared an interest as the Cabinet Member responsible for parking at Winchester City Council.
Councillor Nick Adams-King declared an interest as the Cabinet Member responsible for parking at Test Valley Borough Council.
Councillor Barry Dunning declared an interest as a Member at Lymington Town Council.
Councillor Martin Tod declared an interest as the Cabinet Member responsible for parking at Winchester City Council.
Councillor Nick Adams-King declared an interest as the Cabinet Member responsible for parking at Test Valley Borough Council.
Councillor Barry Dunning declared an interest as a Member at Lymington Town Council.
3
Minutes of previous meeting
To confirm the minutes of the previous meeting
Attachments:
- Document Draft Minutes 23 Mar 2022
Minutes
The minutes of the last meeting were reviewed and agreed.
4
Deputations
To receive any deputations notified under Standing Order 12.
Minutes
It was confirmed that two deputations had been received for the meeting, both speaking on ‘On-Street Chargeable Parking in Lymington’.
Alan Godleman, a local resident, felt that the proposals were not a positive step and shared his concerns regarding displaced parking and also the risks of discouraging shoppers from using the High Street. Neil Walker, a local business owner told Committee that there was unanimous local opposition to the proposals, which would have a detrimental effect on businesses.
Alan Godleman, a local resident, felt that the proposals were not a positive step and shared his concerns regarding displaced parking and also the risks of discouraging shoppers from using the High Street. Neil Walker, a local business owner told Committee that there was unanimous local opposition to the proposals, which would have a detrimental effect on businesses.
5
Chairman's Announcements
To receive any announcements the Chairman may wish to make.
Minutes
The Chairman confirmed that the 12 May meeting had been cancelled.
6
Bikeability Cycle Training - Consideration of Request to Exercise Call-in Powers
To consider a report from the Head of Law and Governance and Monitoring Officer, which asks the Economy Transport and Environment (Overview and Scrutiny) Committee (‘ETE Select Committee’) to consider whether or not it should exercise its powers under Section 9F of Part 1A of the Local Government Act 2000 (‘the 2000 Act’), referred to in the County Council’s Constitution as ‘Call-in’.
Attachments:
- Document Covering Report 23 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 1 - Decision Record 23 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 2 - Decision Day Report 23 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 3 - Constitution Chapter 23 Mar 2022
Minutes
The Select Committee received a report from the Monitoring Officer (item 6 in the minute book), which asked them to consider whether or not it should exercise its powers under Section 9F of Part 1A of the Local Government Act 2000 (‘the 2000 Act’), referred to in the County Council’s Constitution as ‘Call-in’.
Members queried the implementation of the proposals and the reliance on teachers. In summarising the decision, officers confirmed that whilst teachers would be present, the training would be done by qualified instructors. Children did not pass or fail, but achieved a certain standard and level before completing the assessment. It was more effective to bring in-house as the grant could be better utilised and other sources of funding could also be potentially sourced if needed in the longer term. There were already two qualified instructors and it was anticipated that more would be TUPE’d across by the end of July.
It was anticipated that it would go to a Member Briefing and an update could be provided then.
RESOLVED
The Select Committee agreed that they should NOT recommend the Executive Member for Highways Operations re-consider his decisions as set out in the Decision Record attached at Appendix 1.
Voting
Favour: 12
Members queried the implementation of the proposals and the reliance on teachers. In summarising the decision, officers confirmed that whilst teachers would be present, the training would be done by qualified instructors. Children did not pass or fail, but achieved a certain standard and level before completing the assessment. It was more effective to bring in-house as the grant could be better utilised and other sources of funding could also be potentially sourced if needed in the longer term. There were already two qualified instructors and it was anticipated that more would be TUPE’d across by the end of July.
It was anticipated that it would go to a Member Briefing and an update could be provided then.
RESOLVED
The Select Committee agreed that they should NOT recommend the Executive Member for Highways Operations re-consider his decisions as set out in the Decision Record attached at Appendix 1.
Voting
Favour: 12
7
On-Street Chargeable Parking - High Street, Lymington Consideration of Request to Exercise Call-in Powers
To consider a report from the Head of Law and Governance and Monitoring Officer, which asks the Economy Transport and Environment (Overview and Scrutiny) Committee (‘ETE Select Committee’) to consider whether or not it should exercise its powers under Section 9F of Part 1A of the Local Government Act 2000 (‘the 2000 Act’), referred to in the County Council’s Constitution as ‘Call-in’.
Attachments:
- Document Covering Report 23 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 1 - Decision Record 23 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 2a - Decision Day Report 23 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 2b - Supporting Appendix 23 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 3 - Constitution Chapter 23 Mar 2022
Minutes
The Select Committee received a report from the Monitoring Officer (item 7 in the minute book), which asked them to consider whether or not it should exercise its powers under Section 9F of Part 1A of the Local Government Act 2000 (‘the 2000 Act’), referred to in the County Council’s Constitution as ‘Call-in’.
Councillor Tod summarised the concerns as highlighted by the deputations and confirmed that more information was needed regarding the location of parking metres, the amount of free and off-road parking and the financial consequences of the decision.
In a presentation by officers, the Committee learned that various surveys had been undertaken both before and during the pandemic and that the parking was regularly oversubscribed along the High Street. It was felt that 20mins of free parking would be a good balance and minimise impact whilst assisting with cost recovery. New Forest District Council had been liaised with throughout the process and officers would continue to work alongside to monitor off-street parking and any potential displaced parking. The aim was to align charges with off-street parking, also utilising payment Apps as well as enabling residents to pay with cash for accessibility in the short to medium term. It was anticipated that 10 machines would be suitable due to the length of the High Street.
During debate some Members felt that it reasonable to charge for parking on a cost-recovery basis and that it was unusual to get free on-road parking, whereas others felt like it was a missed opportunity for a better scheme that was more joined-up with the local community.
The Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment enforced the importance of generating funds for highway improvements and how surveys had revealed that 155-160 cars had been witnessed parking in the High Street all day, which worked against local businesses. Further discussions were welcomed with New Forest District Council going forward.
RESOLVED
The Select Committee agreed that they should NOT recommend the Executive Member for Highways Operations re-consider his decisions as set out in the Decision Record attached at Appendix 1.
Voting
Favour: 7
Against: 5
Councillor Tod summarised the concerns as highlighted by the deputations and confirmed that more information was needed regarding the location of parking metres, the amount of free and off-road parking and the financial consequences of the decision.
In a presentation by officers, the Committee learned that various surveys had been undertaken both before and during the pandemic and that the parking was regularly oversubscribed along the High Street. It was felt that 20mins of free parking would be a good balance and minimise impact whilst assisting with cost recovery. New Forest District Council had been liaised with throughout the process and officers would continue to work alongside to monitor off-street parking and any potential displaced parking. The aim was to align charges with off-street parking, also utilising payment Apps as well as enabling residents to pay with cash for accessibility in the short to medium term. It was anticipated that 10 machines would be suitable due to the length of the High Street.
During debate some Members felt that it reasonable to charge for parking on a cost-recovery basis and that it was unusual to get free on-road parking, whereas others felt like it was a missed opportunity for a better scheme that was more joined-up with the local community.
The Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment enforced the importance of generating funds for highway improvements and how surveys had revealed that 155-160 cars had been witnessed parking in the High Street all day, which worked against local businesses. Further discussions were welcomed with New Forest District Council going forward.
RESOLVED
The Select Committee agreed that they should NOT recommend the Executive Member for Highways Operations re-consider his decisions as set out in the Decision Record attached at Appendix 1.
Voting
Favour: 7
Against: 5
8
Parking - Service Consolidation Efficiencies - Consideration of Request to Exercise Call-in Powers
To consider a report from the Head of Law and Governance and Monitoring Officer, which asks the Economy Transport and Environment (Overview and Scrutiny) Committee (‘ETE Select Committee’) to consider whether or not it should exercise its powers under Section 9F of Part 1A of the Local Government Act 2000 (‘the 2000 Act’), referred to in the County Council’s Constitution as ‘Call-in’.
Attachments:
- Document Covering Report 23 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 1 - Decision Record 23 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 2a - Decision Day Report 23 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 2b - Supporting Appendix 23 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 3 - Constitution Chapter 23 Mar 2022
Minutes
The Select Committee received a report from the Monitoring Officer (item 8 in the minute book), which asked them to consider whether or not it should exercise its powers under Section 9F of Part 1A of the Local Government Act 2000 (‘the 2000 Act’), referred to in the County Council’s Constitution as ‘Call-in’.
It was noted that additional financial information had been provided in an exempt appendix, which was noted by the Committee and helped better justify the decision that had been made. Where transfers had already taken place in the County, it was felt to be working well with complaints being handled in a timely manner and residents feeling supported.
Whilst some Members remained concerned that the proposals would not save money to assist with the highways maintenance budget, it was noted that the transition period would allow review of how things were working locally and officers would be able to reassess if it was felt necessary.
RESOLVED
The Select Committee agreed that they should NOT recommend the Executive Member for Highways Operations re-consider his decisions as set out in the Decision Record attached at Appendix 1.
Voting
Favour: 9
Against: 3
It was noted that additional financial information had been provided in an exempt appendix, which was noted by the Committee and helped better justify the decision that had been made. Where transfers had already taken place in the County, it was felt to be working well with complaints being handled in a timely manner and residents feeling supported.
Whilst some Members remained concerned that the proposals would not save money to assist with the highways maintenance budget, it was noted that the transition period would allow review of how things were working locally and officers would be able to reassess if it was felt necessary.
RESOLVED
The Select Committee agreed that they should NOT recommend the Executive Member for Highways Operations re-consider his decisions as set out in the Decision Record attached at Appendix 1.
Voting
Favour: 9
Against: 3
9
Exclusion of Press and Public
To resolve that the public be excluded from the meeting during the
following items of business, as it is likely, in view of the nature of the
business to be transacted or the nature of the proceedings, that if
members of the public were present during these items there would be
disclosure to them of exempt information within Paragraphs 1 and 3 of Part 1 of Schedule 12A to the Local Government Act 1972, and further that in all
the circumstances of the case, the public interest in maintaining the
exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information, for
the reasons set out in the reports.
following items of business, as it is likely, in view of the nature of the
business to be transacted or the nature of the proceedings, that if
members of the public were present during these items there would be
disclosure to them of exempt information within Paragraphs 1 and 3 of Part 1 of Schedule 12A to the Local Government Act 1972, and further that in all
the circumstances of the case, the public interest in maintaining the
exemption outweighs the public interest in disclosing the information, for
the reasons set out in the reports.
Minutes
The exempt appendices were not discussed directly and therefore it was not required to exclude the press and public at this meeting.
10
EXEMPT APPENDIX - On-Street Chargeable Parking - High Street, Lymington Consideration of Request to Exercise Call-in Powers
The exempt appendix from the 10 March Decision Day relating to On-Street Chargeable Parking in Lymington (Item 7 on the agenda).
Attachments:
- Document Exempt Appendix 23 Mar 2022
Minutes
This appendix was considered as part of the open item on the agenda without any of the information being declared.
11
EXEMPT APPENDIX (ETE) - Parking - Service Consolidation Efficiencies - Consideration of Request to Exercise Call-in Powers
The exempt appendix from the Economy, Transport and Environment department relating to the Parking – Service Consolidation Efficiencies report (Item 8 on the agenda – appendix 4).
Attachments:
- Document Exempt Appendix 23 Mar 2022
Minutes
This appendix was considered as part of the open item on the agenda without any of the information being declared.
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