Eastleigh Borough Council Licensed Transport Forum Meeting

June 14, 2021, 10 a.m.

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This is a meeting of the Licensed Transport Forum of Eastleigh Borough Council held on the 14th Jun 2021.

The last meeting of the Licensed Transport Forum was on the 8th Feb 2024, and the next meeting will be 6th Jun 2024.

Meeting Status

Moved; from 10 June 2021

Agenda Published

Yes

Decisions Published

No

Minutes Published

Yes

Meeting Location

Microsoft Teams

Meeting Recordings

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Agenda

Item Title Minutes
2 Minutes Licensed Transport Forum Minutes 18 March 2021

RESOLVED –

 

That the minutes of the meeting held on 18 March 2021 be confirmed and signed by the Chair as a correct record.

 

3 Action List Action List

The Senior Licensing Officer provided verbal updates to the Action List (Agenda item 3).

4 Enforcement Summary Enforcement Summary June 2021

The Senior Licensing Officer presented the Enforcement Summary as set out in the Agenda (Item 4) and reported that mystery shopping had taken place, the first since the pandemic began.

 

The Chair welcomed the benefits that the return of mystery shopping would bring and expressed pleasure that standards had not slipped during the pandemic.

5 Safeguarding

The Senior Licensing Officer confirmed that the training packages from the Blue Lamp Trust along with the new Forest District Council package will go to the Administration Committee in July for final approval.

6 Guidance on fitness and propriety

The Senior Licensing Officer confirmed that the documents to replace the handbook would go to the Administration Committee in July for approval to commence the consultation process. A three-month consultation period with drivers, operators and members of the public would commence soon after, and back to the Administration Committee in November for approval.

 

The Chair thanked the Senior Licensing Officer for all his, and his team’s, efforts on the Guidance to Fitness and Propriety.

7 IVA Testing

The Senior Licensing Officer provided verbal updates on IVA Testing and the time scales expected.

8 Discussion regarding offices/costs of licensing premises (RV)

Roger Vivian raised concerns that the costs of the offices at The Depot were high for what they were providing.

 

The Senior Licensing Officer confirmed that the costs included many background services, including finance, IT, legal services, and democratic services alongside the accommodation but they had renegotiated the costs and also a better workspace from the week commencing 14 June 2021.

9 Case law for companies from outside borough to operate within (SL)

Steve Lucas raised concerns that section 9.1 in the handbook was unclear regarding companies from outside the Borough being allowed to work within the Borough. He suggested that section 9.1 could not be approved as the wording stands and that if it was not addressed then the situation could escalate in time.

 

Alan Lloyd and Kevin May agreed with Steve Lucas’s concerns.

 

The Senior Licensing Officer confirmed that current legislation allowed operators to work anywhere in the country and that there is nothing they could do at the present time.

 

The Senior Chartered Legal Executive agreed to look into the situation and update in due course.

10 Clarification for vehicles ranking outside airport (SL)

Steve Lucas expressed disappointment that Southampton Airport were not using local Eastleigh companies to provide contract taxi/ private hire services.

 

The Chair and the Senior Licensing Officer explained although they understood the frustrations, the Airport is private ground and could choose to offer contracts to whoever they chose to.

 

There was further discussion from the trade representatives and it was agreed that the Chair would ask Southampton Airport at the next Airport Consultative Committee if they would consider using a local Eastleigh company when the contract was up for renewal.

11 Emission and pollution level conditions (SL)

Steve Lucas suggested that a date of 1 January 2022 be proposed to ensure that all Hackney carriage and private hire cars were complying with Euro 6 and above emission and pollution levels.

 

The Chair and the Senior Licensing Officer agreed that it would be a good date to aim for, with the option to extend the date if it became necessary.

12 Hackney drivers dress code conditions clarification (SL)

Steve Lucas raised concerns that a dress code could not be enforced on Hackney carriage drivers.

 

The Senior Licensing Officer confirmed that although that was correct, a dress code could be enforced using the Guidance on Fitness and Propriety code of conduct.

13 Statement from the Cabinet Portfolio Holders for the Economy and Transport

The Vice-Chair stated that following the last meeting of the forum, it was apparent that a number of people within the trade needed additional financial support and that there was potential funding available through the Additional Restrictions Grant scheme.

 

Details of the scheme, and the link, were forwarded to as many in the trade as possible in order that they had access to the funds.

 

The Vice-Chair asked the Head of Economy and Business, Camilla Sharp, and her team to assess any applications as a matter of priority and he was pleased to report that not only did the team receive more applications, but Camilla and her team responded magnificently by processing them speedily and efficiently.

 

The Vice-Chair stated that he was sure that those who qualified for the grant appreciated this and he expressed sincere thanks to her and her team for their response in difficult times.

 

He also expressed his thanks to the Senior Licensing Officer, Andy Jeffrey, for working with Camilla in a fantastic joint effort which made this happen. The Vice-Chair was told that Camilla felt his help was invaluable.

 

The Chair echoed the Vice-Chair’s thanks, extended it to all members of the Licensing Team and told the panel that he had informed the Leader of the Council and the Chief Executive of the appreciation for the work carried out by Camilla Sharp and her team in providing advice and support to the trade over recent months.

 

The Chair thanked Hackney Carriage Representative, Alan Lloyd, for his service to the forum ahead of his retirement this month.

 

Alan Lloyd thanked the Chair and also expressed thanks to Hackney Carriage Representative, Simon Cornwell, who had retired. He stated he was an asset to the forum and would be missed.

 

The Chair echoed Alan Lloyd’s thanks.

 

The Senior Licensing Officer thanked Southampton City Council Licensing Officers, Sue Ingram and Patrycja Ngalamulume, for all their help and support.

Meeting Attendees

Councillor Derek Pretty photo
Vice-Chair
Councillor Derek Pretty

Liberal Democrat

Present, as expected

Profile
Councillor Wayne Irish photo
Member
Councillor Wayne Irish

Liberal Democrat

Apologies

Profile
Chair
Cabinet Member for Transport
Councillor David Airey

LIB

Present, as expected

Officer
Senior Chartered Legal Executive (FCILEx)
Nicki Moorhouse

None

Present, as expected

Member
Teresa Swann

None

Apologies

Public
Hackney Carriage Trade Representative
Arron Andrews

None

Present, as expected

Public
Hackney Carriage Trade Representative
Leigh Dodds

None

Present, as expected

Public
Private Hire Trade Representative
Jason Kauder

None

Expected

Public
Private Hire Driver Representative
Michael Keohane

None

Present, as expected

Public
Alan Lloyd

None

Present, as expected

Public
Hackney Carriage Trade Representative
Steve Lucas

None

Present, as expected

Public
Private Hire Trade Representative
Kevin May

None

Present, as expected

Public
Private Hire Trade Representative
Roger Vivian

None

Present, as expected

Officer
Licensing Officer
Sue Ingram

None

Present, as expected

Officer
Patyrcja Ngalamulume

None

Present, as expected

Member
Senior Licensing Officer
Andy Jeffery

None

Present, as expected

Member
Phil Bates

None

Apologies

Member
Executive Head of Neighbourhood Services
Paul Naylor

None

Present, as expected

Previous Committee Meetings

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8th Feb 2024 Licensed Transport Forum

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9th Nov 2023 Licensed Transport Forum

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8th Jun 2023 Licensed Transport Forum

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2nd Feb 2023 Licensed Transport Forum

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10th Nov 2022 Licensed Transport Forum

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9th Jun 2022 Licensed Transport Forum

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10th Mar 2022 Licensed Transport Forum

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4th Nov 2021 Licensed Transport Forum

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14th Jun 2021 Licensed Transport Forum

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18th Mar 2021 Licensed Transport Forum

Future Committee Meetings

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6th Jun 2024 Licensed Transport Forum

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7th Nov 2024 Licensed Transport Forum

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6th Feb 2025 Licensed Transport Forum

Source

This meeting detail is from Eastleigh Borough Council website