Winchester City Borough Council
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Meeting
Winchester Town Forum - Winchester City
Meeting Times
Scheduled Time
Start:
Thursday, 23rd January 2025
6:30 PM
Thursday, 23rd January 2025
6:30 PM
End:
Thursday, 23rd January 2025
10:30 PM
Thursday, 23rd January 2025
10:30 PM
Meeting Status
Status:
Confirmed
Confirmed
Date:
23 Jan 2025
23 Jan 2025
Location:
Walton Suite, Winchester Guildhall and streamed live on YouTube at www.youtube.com/winchestercc
Walton Suite, Winchester Guildhall and streamed live on YouTube at www.youtube.com/winchestercc
Meeting Attendees
Committee Member
Cabinet Member for Healthy Communities
Committee Member
Cabinet Member for the Climate and Nature Emergency
Committee Member
Deputy Mayor
Committee Member
Cabinet Member for Business and Culture
Committee Member
Leader and Cabinet Member for Regeneration
Chairperson
Cabinet Member for Good Homes
Committee Member
Councillor Rachel Aron
Present, as expected
Committee Member
Councillor Richard Murphy
Present, as expected
Agenda
1
Apologies
To record the names of apologies given
Minutes
Apologies of absence were received from Councillors Tod and Wise.
2
Disclosures of Interests
To receive any disclosure of interests from Councillors and Officers in matters to be discussed.
Note: Councillors are reminded of their obligations to declare disclosable pecuniary interests (DPIs), other registerable interests (ORIs) and non-registerable interests (NRIs) in accordance with the Council’s Code of Conduct.
If you require advice, please contact the appropriate Democratic Services Officer, prior to the meeting.
Note: Councillors are reminded of their obligations to declare disclosable pecuniary interests (DPIs), other registerable interests (ORIs) and non-registerable interests (NRIs) in accordance with the Council’s Code of Conduct.
If you require advice, please contact the appropriate Democratic Services Officer, prior to the meeting.
Minutes
No declarations were made at this meeting.
3
Chairperson's Announcements
Minutes
The Chairperson announced that new interpretation boards for the Nunnaminster had recently been installed and that the area had been cleared and cleaned.
4
Minutes of the previous meeting held on 11 November 2024
That the minutes of the meeting be signed as a correct record.
Attachments:
- Document Minutes Public Pack, 11/11/2024 Winchester Town Forum 15 Jan 2025
Minutes
RESOLVED:
That the minutes of the previous meeting held on 11 November 2024 be approved and adopted.
That the minutes of the previous meeting held on 11 November 2024 be approved and adopted.
5
Public Participation
To receive and note the questions asked and statements made from members of the public on issues relating to the responsibility of this Forum.
Members of the public and visiting councillors may speak at the Forum, provided they have registered to speak three working days in advance. Please contact Democratic Services by 5pm on Friday, 17 January 2025 via democracy@winchester.gov.uk or (01962) 848 264 to register to speak and for further details.
Members of the public and visiting councillors may speak at the Forum, provided they have registered to speak three working days in advance. Please contact Democratic Services by 5pm on Friday, 17 January 2025 via democracy@winchester.gov.uk or (01962) 848 264 to register to speak and for further details.
Minutes
Three members of the public addressed the Forum during public participation. A summary of their comments as set out below:
Paula Ferguson
Expressed support for the governance review and concern about the potential loss of representation for the central city wards under local government reorganisation. She queried how residents would be involved in the review process.
Ian Tait
Raised concerns regarding the delay in cleaning and repairing the Buttercross, the harm caused by pigeon droppings, and the state of commercial refuse bins in Hammond's Passage and Parchment Street. He also noted that the Buttercross was being used as a bird table despite being covered by CCTV and that this was absurd given plans to use anti-pigeon gel.
Caroline Kirkman (Volunteer Director, Unit 12)
Provided an update on the development of Unit 12 as a community hub, highlighting the various activities and services offered. She mentioned the need for a permanent ramp and the desire to open a community cafe. In addition, Councillor Tippett-Cooper reported that all volunteers had made an astonishing contribution to the work of Unit 12.
Paula Ferguson
Expressed support for the governance review and concern about the potential loss of representation for the central city wards under local government reorganisation. She queried how residents would be involved in the review process.
Ian Tait
Raised concerns regarding the delay in cleaning and repairing the Buttercross, the harm caused by pigeon droppings, and the state of commercial refuse bins in Hammond's Passage and Parchment Street. He also noted that the Buttercross was being used as a bird table despite being covered by CCTV and that this was absurd given plans to use anti-pigeon gel.
Caroline Kirkman (Volunteer Director, Unit 12)
Provided an update on the development of Unit 12 as a community hub, highlighting the various activities and services offered. She mentioned the need for a permanent ramp and the desire to open a community cafe. In addition, Councillor Tippett-Cooper reported that all volunteers had made an astonishing contribution to the work of Unit 12.
6
Winchester Town Account Budget for 2025/26 (to be recommended to Cabinet) (WTF336)
Attachments:
- Document WTF336 - Winchester Town Account Budget for 2025-26 (to be recommended to Cabinet) 15 Jan 2025
- Document WTF336 - Appendix 1 15 Jan 2025
Minutes
Councillor Learney introduced the budget report, noting the need to recommend a budget and town charge to Cabinet. She emphasised that the government devolution agenda required a reassessment of financial strategy and that a target reserve of 20% of net expenditure was now considered sensible.
The forum noted that the financial projections reflected a 3% increase in the town precept which could increase further depending on the City Council tax charge and recognised that every 1% increase in the charge increases income by £13,000.
Councillor Learney emphasised that the town charge remained lower than that of market towns, and that the financial position was slightly better than that forecast in November. As a result, it was therefore proposed that the £2,500 reduction in the grant to the Winchester Citizens Advice for this year be reinstated.
In addition, the formal acknowledgement of the £500 contribution from Littleton and Harestock Parish Council towards the night bus service was also proposed.
The forum proceeded to ask questions and comment on the following matters which were responded to by Councillor Learney and the Finance Manager (Strategic Finance).
(a) A question was raised about the rationale for increasing the town reserve balance. Councillor Learney emphasised the need for good practice and the possibility of extra expenditure due to local government reorganisation.
(b) A query was raised about what would happen to the town forum reserve if a town council were established. It was noted that the financial position of a new town council would be a key consideration, and reserves raised through the special charge should be spent on the town, not the wider district. It was noted that the transfer of assets would be subject to negotiation.
(c) It was noted that the Town Forum was subject to a capping limit and that the Town Forum must be prudent now to avoid debt in the future.
(d) A correction was made to item 11.7 of the report, noting the precept increase was £4.70 and not £1.58 as referred to within the table.
RESOLVED:
That the Town Forum:
1. Agrees the draft budget for 2025/26 and the indicative projections for the strategy as shown in Appendix 1;
2. Approves an increase in the target minimum Town Reserve balance from 15% to 20% of annual net service expenditure;
3. Agrees a one-off budget for 2025/26 of £2,500, funded by the Town Reserve, to be allocated to additional funding for Winchester Citizens Advice;
4. Recommend to Cabinet that the council tax precept in the Winchester town area should be the maximum allowed within the overall referendum requirements; and
5. Agrees to request a contribution of £500 towards the night bus service from the Littleton and Harestock Parish Council.
The forum noted that the financial projections reflected a 3% increase in the town precept which could increase further depending on the City Council tax charge and recognised that every 1% increase in the charge increases income by £13,000.
Councillor Learney emphasised that the town charge remained lower than that of market towns, and that the financial position was slightly better than that forecast in November. As a result, it was therefore proposed that the £2,500 reduction in the grant to the Winchester Citizens Advice for this year be reinstated.
In addition, the formal acknowledgement of the £500 contribution from Littleton and Harestock Parish Council towards the night bus service was also proposed.
The forum proceeded to ask questions and comment on the following matters which were responded to by Councillor Learney and the Finance Manager (Strategic Finance).
(a) A question was raised about the rationale for increasing the town reserve balance. Councillor Learney emphasised the need for good practice and the possibility of extra expenditure due to local government reorganisation.
(b) A query was raised about what would happen to the town forum reserve if a town council were established. It was noted that the financial position of a new town council would be a key consideration, and reserves raised through the special charge should be spent on the town, not the wider district. It was noted that the transfer of assets would be subject to negotiation.
(c) It was noted that the Town Forum was subject to a capping limit and that the Town Forum must be prudent now to avoid debt in the future.
(d) A correction was made to item 11.7 of the report, noting the precept increase was £4.70 and not £1.58 as referred to within the table.
RESOLVED:
That the Town Forum:
1. Agrees the draft budget for 2025/26 and the indicative projections for the strategy as shown in Appendix 1;
2. Approves an increase in the target minimum Town Reserve balance from 15% to 20% of annual net service expenditure;
3. Agrees a one-off budget for 2025/26 of £2,500, funded by the Town Reserve, to be allocated to additional funding for Winchester Citizens Advice;
4. Recommend to Cabinet that the council tax precept in the Winchester town area should be the maximum allowed within the overall referendum requirements; and
5. Agrees to request a contribution of £500 towards the night bus service from the Littleton and Harestock Parish Council.
7
Request for Governance Review (WTF337)
Attachments:
- Document WTF337 - Request for Governance Review 15 Jan 2025
Minutes
The Chairperson introduced the report, highlighting the potential implications of local government reorganisation and the need to explore establishing a town council for central Winchester.
Following the Deputy Prime Minister's announcement on local government reorganisation, the Forum recognised this could lead to the amalgamation of districts and a target population of around 500,000 people.
The impact of this could mean that the City of Winchester may find that decisions relating to important local matters could be made by an authority located between 20-50 miles away.
The forum discussed the need to ensure that the residents of the city have a voice and that local decision-making was retained.
The Forum agreed that a request be made to the Winchester City Council to consider a community governance review and proceeded to ask questions and comment on the following matters which were responded to by the Chairperson and the Strategic Director.
(a) Councillor Scott asked about who would undertake the review. It was noted that the Licensing and Regulation Committee agreed the scope of the review and that this could be resourced by either consultants or existing staff. The review would take 12 months to complete, and it was considered this review would be more complex than the review of North Whiteley.
(b) There was a discussion about ensuring that the Town Forum has input into the review process and that local community leaders and representatives participate.
(c) It was emphasised that the process needs to prioritize residents' views. An informal working group of the town forum was suggested.
(d) It was noted that the decision on the review will be taken by the Full Council.
(e) The Strategic Director outlined a possible timetable for a community governance review based on the North Whiteley model with four months of preparation and consultations and with a final decision from Full Council. It was noted that greater engagement would be needed than in the North Whiteley review.
(f) It was noted that any consultation would need to go out to the residents, not just wait for them to come to the council.
(g) There was a discussion about the need for any governance review to focus on the simple point of whether residents want an elected town council and also to consider what the duties of the town council would look like.
(h) A question about the sequencing of the review was raised, given the uncertainty of the government's intentions for local government reorganisation. It was noted that the decision to undertake the review did not start the clock but that the formal publication of the terms of reference does.
(i) There was agreement that the Town Forum has done good service but may be at a natural conclusion and that a review is healthy irrespective of what the government wants.
(j) A question about what assets would fall to any new structure and whether that would be decided by the review was raised. It was noted that any new authority needs to be sustainable and that the assets need to be those that matter to the residents.
(k) It was suggested that the 2019 Governance Review (Report WTF282) be circulated to members.
At the conclusion of debate, the forum agreed an amendment to the recommendation to include the unparished area of Winchester.
RESOLVED:
That the Town Forum agree to make a request to Winchester City Council to consider undertaking a community governance review with a view to establishing a town council covering the unparished area of Winchester.
Following the Deputy Prime Minister's announcement on local government reorganisation, the Forum recognised this could lead to the amalgamation of districts and a target population of around 500,000 people.
The impact of this could mean that the City of Winchester may find that decisions relating to important local matters could be made by an authority located between 20-50 miles away.
The forum discussed the need to ensure that the residents of the city have a voice and that local decision-making was retained.
The Forum agreed that a request be made to the Winchester City Council to consider a community governance review and proceeded to ask questions and comment on the following matters which were responded to by the Chairperson and the Strategic Director.
(a) Councillor Scott asked about who would undertake the review. It was noted that the Licensing and Regulation Committee agreed the scope of the review and that this could be resourced by either consultants or existing staff. The review would take 12 months to complete, and it was considered this review would be more complex than the review of North Whiteley.
(b) There was a discussion about ensuring that the Town Forum has input into the review process and that local community leaders and representatives participate.
(c) It was emphasised that the process needs to prioritize residents' views. An informal working group of the town forum was suggested.
(d) It was noted that the decision on the review will be taken by the Full Council.
(e) The Strategic Director outlined a possible timetable for a community governance review based on the North Whiteley model with four months of preparation and consultations and with a final decision from Full Council. It was noted that greater engagement would be needed than in the North Whiteley review.
(f) It was noted that any consultation would need to go out to the residents, not just wait for them to come to the council.
(g) There was a discussion about the need for any governance review to focus on the simple point of whether residents want an elected town council and also to consider what the duties of the town council would look like.
(h) A question about the sequencing of the review was raised, given the uncertainty of the government's intentions for local government reorganisation. It was noted that the decision to undertake the review did not start the clock but that the formal publication of the terms of reference does.
(i) There was agreement that the Town Forum has done good service but may be at a natural conclusion and that a review is healthy irrespective of what the government wants.
(j) A question about what assets would fall to any new structure and whether that would be decided by the review was raised. It was noted that any new authority needs to be sustainable and that the assets need to be those that matter to the residents.
(k) It was suggested that the 2019 Governance Review (Report WTF282) be circulated to members.
At the conclusion of debate, the forum agreed an amendment to the recommendation to include the unparished area of Winchester.
RESOLVED:
That the Town Forum agree to make a request to Winchester City Council to consider undertaking a community governance review with a view to establishing a town council covering the unparished area of Winchester.
8
Informal Group - Verbal Update
Optional: The Chairs of any of the informal groups may briefly update the Forum on any recent developments from their group.
Minutes
The Forum received individual updates from the Chairpersons of various Town Informal Groups, where updates had not already been provided within the items considered above. Each summarised the work that had been carried out by the respective groups over the previous two-month period.
Councillor Tippett-Cooper – Culture Informal Group
Progress updates from the group included:
(i) The Buttercross - Restoration works were progressing. Historic England consent for the work had been granted and quotations have been sought. The work was anticipated to be carried out in the summer and would take between 12-16 weeks to complete.
(ii) Hyde Abbey Gateway – The report on the Hyde Abbey Gateway was completed and would be published online.
RESOLVED:
That the update received from the Town Informal Group, be noted.
Councillor Tippett-Cooper – Culture Informal Group
Progress updates from the group included:
(i) The Buttercross - Restoration works were progressing. Historic England consent for the work had been granted and quotations have been sought. The work was anticipated to be carried out in the summer and would take between 12-16 weeks to complete.
(ii) Hyde Abbey Gateway – The report on the Hyde Abbey Gateway was completed and would be published online.
RESOLVED:
That the update received from the Town Informal Group, be noted.
9
Work Programme 2024/25
To note the current version of the Work Programme for 2024/25.
Attachments:
- Document Town Forum Work Plan - January 2025 15 Jan 2025
Minutes
It was noted that the forward business for the next meeting was blank, pending the outcome of discussions at this meeting.
RESOLVED:
That the work programme for 2024/25 be noted.
RESOLVED:
That the work programme for 2024/25 be noted.
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