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Meeting
Appeals Panel - New Forest
Meeting Times
Scheduled Time
Start:
Wednesday, 23rd March 2022
10:15 AM
Wednesday, 23rd March 2022
10:15 AM
End:
Wednesday, 23rd March 2022
2:15 PM
Wednesday, 23rd March 2022
2:15 PM
Actual Time
Started:
Wednesday, 23rd March 2022
12:00 AM
Wednesday, 23rd March 2022
12:00 AM
Finished:
Wednesday, 23rd March 2022
12:00 AM
Wednesday, 23rd March 2022
12:00 AM
Meeting Status
Status:
Confirmed
Confirmed
Date:
23 Mar 2022
23 Mar 2022
Location:
Fordingbridge Town Hall, 63 High Street, Fordingbridge, SP6 1AS
Fordingbridge Town Hall, 63 High Street, Fordingbridge, SP6 1AS
Meeting Attendees
Officer
Democratic Services Officer
Andy Rogers
In attendance
Officer
Service Manager - Legal
Ian Austin
Expected
Officer
Hannah Chalmers
In attendance
Officer
Solicitor
Richard Davies
In attendance
In Attendance
Cllr Ann Sevier
In attendance
Agenda
0
Apologies
Minutes
1
Election of Chairman
To elect a Chairman for the meeting.
Minutes
RESOLVED:
That Cllr Derek Tipp be appointed Chairman of the Panel.
That Cllr Derek Tipp be appointed Chairman of the Panel.
2
Declarations of Interest
To note any declarations of interest made by members in connection with an agenda item. The nature of the interest must also be specified.
Members are asked to discuss any possible interests with Democratic Services prior to the meeting.
Members are asked to discuss any possible interests with Democratic Services prior to the meeting.
Minutes
There were no declarations of interest made by any member in connection with any agenda item.
3
Tree Preservation Order No. 0012/21
To consider objections to the making of Tree Preservation Order 0012/21 relating to land of land of 30 Park Road, Fordingbridge.
Attachments:
- Document 30 Park Road location plan 15 Mar 2022
- Document APPEALS PANEL Report - TPO 0012-21 15 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 1 - TREE Preservation Order_Redacted 15 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 2 - TPO-30 Park Rd-Report v002 (RD) 15 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 3 - obj letter 17 October_Redacted 15 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 3 - obj letter 02 February 15 Mar 2022
- Document Appendix 4 - TPO 0012 21 TEMPO 15 Mar 2022
- Document Photo of tree 1 15 Mar 2022
- Document Photo of tree 2 15 Mar 2022
Minutes
The hearing had been preceded by a visit to the site to allow members to view the tree at 30 Park Road, Fordingbridge of Tree Preservation Order 0012/21 (the TPO). The tree was viewed from the road, close to where it stood.
Members noted the tests that should be applied in considering whether or not to confirm the TPO, as set out in the report to the Panel. The Appeals Panel was advised that it might confirm the TPO if it considered that it was expedient and in the interests of amenity to do so.
Mr Edmunds, the owner, explained the reasons for his objection to the TPO. Since it was planted by a landscape gardener employed by him in 2014, the tree, a London Plane, had exceeded its expected rate of growth and was already overhanging the road. He was also concerned about the roots of the tree damaging his retaining wall. He did not feel the tree was a candidate for preservation and estimated that the spread of the tree could potentially be 40 feet. He would like to retain the tree but could not see how this was practical. He felt the TPO was an infringement of his civil liberties.
In answer to a question from the Tree Officer on whether he sought professional advice on the planting of the tree, Mr Edmunds stated that the landscape gardener who planted the tree did not advise Mr Edmunds about the size and he did not know whether the landscape gardener had any professional accreditations.
Mr Edmunds was asked why he objected to the TPO when he could manage the tree with the Tree Officer’s advice. Mr Edmunds felt he could manage the tree himself through common sense management. He did not feel the TPO was justified and did not feel that the tree made a difference to the visual amenity of the area.
In her statement, the Tree Officer explained that following the July 2021 planning application, it was not clear whether the tree would be retained, and therefore the TPO was made due to the potential risk to the tree. It was felt the future amenity value of the tree should be protected. Although the tree was not a mature specimen, this did not restrict the amenity value. She explained that this species of tree (a London Plane) tolerated pruning, and pruning over the highway was exempt from the conditions in the TPO. The Tree Officer estimated that the potential spread of the tree was 10m in diameter and was a great feature to that part of the road.
Mr Edmunds asked what recourse there was if the tree damaged his retaining wall, including the inconvenience and expense. The Tree Officer responded that trees could be removed if there was subsidence to properties, in which case an application to fell the tree could be made ie if they were a ‘legal nuisance.’ Where there was evidence of damage caused by trees, the Council could potentially also be held liable for costs.
In response to a question, the Tree Officer confirmed that applications to undertake works under a TPO were free, and there were no costs for applying to do work. The only extra burden of the TPO was the timescale, where it could take up to 8 weeks to make a decision on applications for tree work.
It was confirmed that if the tree became a legal nuisance, with supporting evidence, the Council would find it difficult to refuse applications to fell a tree.
In answer to a question, the Tree Officer confirmed that even though the planning application had been refused, the expediency argument still potentially remained.
The local member, Cllr Sevier, spoke in support of the TPO and felt the tree was an important part of the street scene and emphasised the need for tree owners to get good advice about their management.
In summing up her case, the Tree Officer said that the subject of the TPO was a young maturing tree and a feature in the street scene, whose amenity would grow. Future planning applications could jeopardise the tree.
The legal adviser explained that TPOs could be precautionary and cater for potential future circumstances. The Panel should decide what appropriate weight to give to this aspect.
Mr Edmunds reiterated that he did not feel that a TPO was appropriate for a young tree which had grown up very quickly. He felt that another tree could be replanted in a better location with the same public amenity.
The hearing was then closed and the Panel deliberated on whether to confirm the TPO.
Members agreed that the tree had significant amenity value and that it was expedient to protect the tree, as it could be under possible threat in the future given the potential for development. Accordingly, the Panel felt there were sufficient grounds for the tree to be preserved.
In addition, they noted there was no real evidence of damage caused by the tree to date. They acknowledged that if works needed to be carried out, they could be done under the TPO in consultation with the Council. It was reiterated that if the tree could be shown to have caused damage, the owner should approach the Council and officers would work with the owner towards a satisfactory conclusion.
Members noted the owner had not had the benefit of technical advice from the person planting the tree. Whilst the Panel had some sympathy with the owner’s concerns about potential damage, they felt that applying for works under the TPO would not be too onerous.
RESOLVED:
That Tree Preservation Order TPO/0012/21 relating to land of 30 Park Road be confirmed.
CHAIRMAN
Members noted the tests that should be applied in considering whether or not to confirm the TPO, as set out in the report to the Panel. The Appeals Panel was advised that it might confirm the TPO if it considered that it was expedient and in the interests of amenity to do so.
Mr Edmunds, the owner, explained the reasons for his objection to the TPO. Since it was planted by a landscape gardener employed by him in 2014, the tree, a London Plane, had exceeded its expected rate of growth and was already overhanging the road. He was also concerned about the roots of the tree damaging his retaining wall. He did not feel the tree was a candidate for preservation and estimated that the spread of the tree could potentially be 40 feet. He would like to retain the tree but could not see how this was practical. He felt the TPO was an infringement of his civil liberties.
In answer to a question from the Tree Officer on whether he sought professional advice on the planting of the tree, Mr Edmunds stated that the landscape gardener who planted the tree did not advise Mr Edmunds about the size and he did not know whether the landscape gardener had any professional accreditations.
Mr Edmunds was asked why he objected to the TPO when he could manage the tree with the Tree Officer’s advice. Mr Edmunds felt he could manage the tree himself through common sense management. He did not feel the TPO was justified and did not feel that the tree made a difference to the visual amenity of the area.
In her statement, the Tree Officer explained that following the July 2021 planning application, it was not clear whether the tree would be retained, and therefore the TPO was made due to the potential risk to the tree. It was felt the future amenity value of the tree should be protected. Although the tree was not a mature specimen, this did not restrict the amenity value. She explained that this species of tree (a London Plane) tolerated pruning, and pruning over the highway was exempt from the conditions in the TPO. The Tree Officer estimated that the potential spread of the tree was 10m in diameter and was a great feature to that part of the road.
Mr Edmunds asked what recourse there was if the tree damaged his retaining wall, including the inconvenience and expense. The Tree Officer responded that trees could be removed if there was subsidence to properties, in which case an application to fell the tree could be made ie if they were a ‘legal nuisance.’ Where there was evidence of damage caused by trees, the Council could potentially also be held liable for costs.
In response to a question, the Tree Officer confirmed that applications to undertake works under a TPO were free, and there were no costs for applying to do work. The only extra burden of the TPO was the timescale, where it could take up to 8 weeks to make a decision on applications for tree work.
It was confirmed that if the tree became a legal nuisance, with supporting evidence, the Council would find it difficult to refuse applications to fell a tree.
In answer to a question, the Tree Officer confirmed that even though the planning application had been refused, the expediency argument still potentially remained.
The local member, Cllr Sevier, spoke in support of the TPO and felt the tree was an important part of the street scene and emphasised the need for tree owners to get good advice about their management.
In summing up her case, the Tree Officer said that the subject of the TPO was a young maturing tree and a feature in the street scene, whose amenity would grow. Future planning applications could jeopardise the tree.
The legal adviser explained that TPOs could be precautionary and cater for potential future circumstances. The Panel should decide what appropriate weight to give to this aspect.
Mr Edmunds reiterated that he did not feel that a TPO was appropriate for a young tree which had grown up very quickly. He felt that another tree could be replanted in a better location with the same public amenity.
The hearing was then closed and the Panel deliberated on whether to confirm the TPO.
Members agreed that the tree had significant amenity value and that it was expedient to protect the tree, as it could be under possible threat in the future given the potential for development. Accordingly, the Panel felt there were sufficient grounds for the tree to be preserved.
In addition, they noted there was no real evidence of damage caused by the tree to date. They acknowledged that if works needed to be carried out, they could be done under the TPO in consultation with the Council. It was reiterated that if the tree could be shown to have caused damage, the owner should approach the Council and officers would work with the owner towards a satisfactory conclusion.
Members noted the owner had not had the benefit of technical advice from the person planting the tree. Whilst the Panel had some sympathy with the owner’s concerns about potential damage, they felt that applying for works under the TPO would not be too onerous.
RESOLVED:
That Tree Preservation Order TPO/0012/21 relating to land of 30 Park Road be confirmed.
CHAIRMAN
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