Havant Borough Council
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Meeting
Planning Committee - Havant
Meeting Times
Scheduled Time
Start:
Tuesday, 3rd September 2024
5:30 PM
Tuesday, 3rd September 2024
5:30 PM
End:
Tuesday, 3rd September 2024
9:30 PM
Tuesday, 3rd September 2024
9:30 PM
Meeting Status
Status:
Confirmed; Extraordinary
Confirmed; Extraordinary
Date:
03 Sep 2024
03 Sep 2024
Location:
Hurstwood Room, Public Service Plaza, Civic Centre Road, Havant, Hampshire PO9 2AX
Hurstwood Room, Public Service Plaza, Civic Centre Road, Havant, Hampshire PO9 2AX
Meeting Attendees
Vice-Chairman
Vice Chairman of Planning Committee
Committee Member
Councillor Elizabeth Lloyd (formerly known as Dianne)
Independent for Stakes
Present, as expected
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Committee Member
Cabinet Lead for Climate Emergency, Environment & Water Quality (Climate Change Champion)
Secretary
Democratic Services Officer
Mark Gregory
Expected
Secretary
Democratic Services Officer
Ernest Lam
Expected
Secretary
Democratic Services Officer
Lauren Maidens
Expected
Deputee
Armed Forces Champion
Committee Member
Chairman of Licensing Committee
Committee Member
Chairman of Overview and Scrutiny Committee
Chairman
Cabinet Lead for Planning and Environment and Chairman of Planning Committee
Committee Member
Deputy Mayor of the Council and Vice Chairman of Licensing Committee
Deputee
Deputy Leader of the Council and Cabinet Lead for Finance, Leader of Liberal Democratic Party
Agenda
1
Apologies for Absence
To receive and record any apologies for absence.
Minutes
There were no apologies for absence received for this meeting.
2
Minutes
To approve
a. the minutes of the Planning Committee held on 25 July 2024 as submitted; and
b. the minutes of the Site Viewing Working Party held on 18 July 2024 subject to minute 64 being amended to read as follows:
“APP/24/00816 – Havant Thicket, adjacent to Sir George Staunton Country Park, Middle Park Way, Havant
Proposal: Application for approval of all Reserved Matters (siting, scale, external appearance and landscaping) relating to Phase 2 (Wetland) of the Thicket Reservoir development pursuant to condition 2 of the Hybrid permission planning reference APP/20/00990 dated 15th October 2021.
The site view was requested by the Executive Head of Place.
The purpose of the visit was to assess whether there were any additional matters that should be considered by the Planning Committee.
The Working Party visited the office located in the application site, where the representatives of the Portsmouth Water Company pointed out the main aspects of the works in progress from a distance.
The Working Party also received a general presentation from Portsmouth Water relating to the background to the Reservoir project, its planning history, and current and future planning applications relating to the project.
RESOLVED that, based on the information provided during the site visit, no additional information be provided to the Planning Committee.”
a. the minutes of the Planning Committee held on 25 July 2024 as submitted; and
b. the minutes of the Site Viewing Working Party held on 18 July 2024 subject to minute 64 being amended to read as follows:
“APP/24/00816 – Havant Thicket, adjacent to Sir George Staunton Country Park, Middle Park Way, Havant
Proposal: Application for approval of all Reserved Matters (siting, scale, external appearance and landscaping) relating to Phase 2 (Wetland) of the Thicket Reservoir development pursuant to condition 2 of the Hybrid permission planning reference APP/20/00990 dated 15th October 2021.
The site view was requested by the Executive Head of Place.
The purpose of the visit was to assess whether there were any additional matters that should be considered by the Planning Committee.
The Working Party visited the office located in the application site, where the representatives of the Portsmouth Water Company pointed out the main aspects of the works in progress from a distance.
The Working Party also received a general presentation from Portsmouth Water relating to the background to the Reservoir project, its planning history, and current and future planning applications relating to the project.
RESOLVED that, based on the information provided during the site visit, no additional information be provided to the Planning Committee.”
Attachments:
- Document Minutes of Previous Meeting 23 Aug 2024
- Document Minutes Public Pack, 18/07/2024 Site Viewing Working Party 23 Aug 2024
Minutes
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Planning Committee held on 25 July 2024 and the minutes of the Site Viewing Working Party held on 18 July 2024 be approved as a true record and signed by the Chairman.
3
Declarations of Interests
To receive and record any declarations of interests from Members present.
Minutes
The following declarations of interests were received:
Councillor’s Name
Agenda Item No.
Pecuniary or Non Pecuniary Interest
Reason
Rason
5(a)
Non Pecuniary
Has formed a conclusive view regarding the item and would withdraw from the vote and debate of this meeting.
Councillor’s Name
Agenda Item No.
Pecuniary or Non Pecuniary Interest
Reason
Rason
5(a)
Non Pecuniary
Has formed a conclusive view regarding the item and would withdraw from the vote and debate of this meeting.
4
Matters to be Considered for Deferment or Site Viewing
To consider matters for deferment or site viewing.
Minutes
There were no matters to be considered for site viewing and deferment.
5
All other Applications for Development
Attachments:
- Document Apps for Dev Report 23 Aug 2024
5
APP/24/00186 - Havant Thicket, adjacent to Sir George Staunton Country Park, Middle Park Way, Havant
Proposal: Application for approval of all Reserved Matters (siting, scale, external appearance and landscaping) relating to Phase 2 (Wetland) of the Thicket Reservoir development pursuant to condition 2 of the Hybrid permission planning reference APP/20/00990 dated 15th October 2021.
Additional Documents
Additional Documents
Attachments:
- Document Havant Thicket officer report 23 Aug 2024
- Document APPENDIX A - Reservoir Masterplan 23 Aug 2024
- Document APPENDIX B - Site Plan 23 Aug 2024
- Document APPENDIX C - Overall Design Strategy 23 Aug 2024
- Document APPENDIX D - Landscape General Arrangement 1 23 Aug 2024
- Document APPENDIX E - Landscape General Arrangement 2 23 Aug 2024
- Document APPENDIX F - Landscape General Arrangement 3 23 Aug 2024
- Document APPENDIX G - Landscape General Arrangement 4 23 Aug 2024
- Document APPENDIX H - Landscape General Arrangement 5 23 Aug 2024
- Document APPENDIX I - Landscape General Arrangement 6 23 Aug 2024
- Document APPENDIX J - Wetland Cross Section 1 23 Aug 2024
- Document APPENDIX K - Wetland Cross Section 2 23 Aug 2024
- Document APPENDIX L - Landscape and Ecology Proposals 23 Aug 2024
- Document Written Statement for Verbal Address to Planning Committee APP2400186 from Cllr Philippa Gray 23 Aug 2024
- Document Written Statement by the Applicant for Verbal Address - Phase 2 RMA - 20082024 23 Aug 2024
- Document Havant Thicket update paper 23 Aug 2024
- Document HBC Presentation RMA Wetland Briefing 20 AUG UPDATED (1) FINAL 23 Aug 2024
- Document Deputation on wetlands APP 24 00186 23 Aug 2024
- Document Planning Committee Deputation 3sept2024b (002) 23 Aug 2024
Minutes
(Councillor Rason did not take part in the debate or the vote of the item as she had declared a non-pecuniary interest at the meeting.)
(The site was viewed by the Site Viewing Working Party)
Proposal: Application for approval of all Reserved Matters (siting, scale, external appearance and landscaping) relating to Phase 2 (Wetland) of the Thicket Reservoir development pursuant to condition 2 of the Hybrid permission planning reference APP/20/00990 dated 15th October 2021.
The Committee considered the written report and recommendation from the Head of Planning to grant reserved matters approval.
The Committee received supplementary information, circulated prior to the
meeting, which included:
1. Written deputations submitted by Ms Viney, Councillor Rason, Councillor Gray and the applicant’s agent.
2. an update sheet which included an officers’ briefing presentation and information regarding East Hampshire District Council’s decision on the Havant Thicket Reservoir Reserved Matters application pertaingin to their administrative area (reference 51680/008).
The Committee was addressed by:
1. Ms Viney, who reiterated the issues set out in the written deputation submitted.
In response to questions from members of the Committee, Mr Viney stated that:
· Experts had felt that some minor ground manipulation would be valuable, whereby islands and channels around the island could be created.
2. Councillor Gray who reiterated the issues set out in the written deputation submitted.
3. Councillor Rason who reiterated the issues set out in the written deputation submitted.
4. Mr Hanson and Mr Turner, the applicant and the applicant’s agent, who reiterated the issues set out in the written deputation submitted.
In response to questions from members of the Committee, Mr Hanson and Mr Turner stated that:
· Benching formed part of the submitted proposals.
· Geogrips were used as a material to add stability to the islands and ensure its longevity.
· The mounds located in the site would not be located on areas designated as wet grassland and would help reduce predation in certain locations.
· Ecological experts of Havant Borough Council had raised no objection regarding the mounds located in the site.
· The technical note had asked for local ground manipulation, which had been carried out.
· The landforms would add to the habitat complexity within the site.
· The landscape ecology management plan had set out a maintenance regime for the wetland to ensure the wetland achieves its objectives in the long term.
· Public consultees had formed part of the design process; however specialist advice also had to be taken into account in, which would ultimately inform the design of the wetland.
· The raised landforms and fencing would offer animals in the wetland some protections from their predators.
· The water depths around the island would range between 0.6 to 1.4 metres.
· The natural topography of the ground had dictated the design of the island features.
· The orientation of bird hides would be finalised as a condition.
The officers commented on the issues raised by public speakers and in the written submissions as follows:
· Havant could only grant or refuse that part of the reserved matters application that fell within Havant’s boundary.
· East Hampshire District Council had granted reserved matters approval through delegated powers for the parts of the Wetland which fells within their boundary.
· The design of the wetland had evolved as more detailed information had become available.
· Members of the Committee should consider whether the current scheme meets the fixed parameters, and whether the scheme would be acceptable.
· Officers considered the scheme, taken as a whole, to be acceptable in planning terms.
· The plastic membrane material choice was not itself an objectionable material choice.
· The majority of grassland lost within the site was not considered to be priority wet grassland. This would be compensated by the woodlands in the north of the site.
· The design driver behind the wetland was not primarily to compensate for the negative impacts towards bird species.
· The prime area of wet grassland creation would be in compartment 0, which is in the far east of the site.
· The area of the mound would stretch between the open water habitat, grasslands and the woodland.
In response to questions from members of the Committee, officers stated that:
a. members should consider whether the proposal would be considered acceptable.
b. The applicant and the landowner would be responsible for maintaining the site.
c. Havant Borough Council did not have to affect the East Hampshire District Council application which fell outside of its boundary; the decision by East Hampshire to grant reserved matters approval was a material consideration.
d. The mounds were not considered to be ecological objectionable.
e. Condition 28 of the original permission, referred to in the report, have mentioned a landscaping condition for the site.
The Committee discussed the application in detail together with the views raised by deputees.
The Committee considered the mounds located in the site, their purposes and locations, the area of the site which Havant Borough Council can consider in this application, and the needs of the residents in the future.
RESOLVED that application APP/24/00186 be granted permission subject to the following conditions (subject to such changes and/or additions that the Head of Planning considers necessary to impose prior to the issuing of the decision):
Conditions:
1. Details of Bird Hides and Means of Access
Prior to the first filling of the Wetland, details of the bird hides (including design, orientation, materials and screening) and means of access, barriers and screens, shall be submitted to and approved in writing by the Local Planning Authority. The development shall be carried out in accordance with the approved details and retained thereafter.
Reason: In the interests of biodiversity, visitor amenity and safety and protection of new and existing habitats in accordance with the National Planning Policy Framework (2023) and Havant Borough Local Plan (Core Strategy) Policies CS11 and DM8.
2. Approved Drawings
The development hereby permitted shall be carried out in accordance with the following approved plans and particulars:
Documents
Adams Hendry Consulting Ltd Covering letter dated 13th May 2024
Environmental Statement of Conformity dated 4th March 2024 reference HTR-RHD-P2-XX-RP-Z-0003 Rev P03
Planning statement prepared by Adams Hendry Consulting Ltd dated March 2024 ref JTM/1856/Phase2RMA
Drawings
Drawing Number
Title
HTR-GHD-ZZ-RE-DR-Z-0002
REV P04
Proposed Reservoir Works Key Plan Phase 2
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0012
REV P10
Outline Wetlands Embankment Overall Design Strategy
HTR-COF-EM-RE-DR-GE-4004
REV P01
Planning Drawing Wetlands Retaining Embankment Proposed Site Layout
HTR-COF-EM-RE-DR-GE-4005
REV P01
Planning Drawing Wetlands Retaining Embankment Design Cross Sections
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0050
REV P07
Landscape and Ecology Proposals
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0051
REV P05
Wetlands Embankment Active Water Control Feature - Penstock Detail
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0052
REV P06
Wetland Spillway Detail - No Vehicle Access (Section & Plan)
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0053
REV P06
Wetland Spillway Detail (Section and Plan)
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0054
REV P05
Wetland Spillway Detail Compartment 3/4 (Section and Plan)
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0055
REV P05
Wetland Spillway Detail Compartment 1/2 (Section and Plan)
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0056 REV P08
Wetland Retaining Structure - Landscape General Arrangement Sheet 1 of 6
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0057
REV P07
Wetland Retaining Structure - Landscape General Arrangement Sheet 2 of 6
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0058
REV P07
Wetland Retaining Structure - Landscape General Arrangement Sheet 3 of 6
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0059
REV P07
Wetland Retaining Structure - Landscape General Arrangement Sheet 4 of 6
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0060
REV P06
Wetland Retaining Structure - Landscape General Arrangement Sheet 5 of 6
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0061
REV P07
Wetland Retaining Structure - Landscape General Arrangement Sheet 6 of 6
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-S-0062
REV P08
Wetlands Active Water Control Penstock Chamber Details Compartment 4
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-S-0063
REV P08
Wetlands Active Water Control Penstock Chamber Details Compartment 3
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-S-0064
REV P08
Wetlands Active Water Control Penstock Chamber Details Compartment 2
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-S-0065
Wetlands Active Water Control Penstock Chamber Details Compartment 1
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0080
REV P04
Wetlands Islands and Ephemeral Features Cross-sections Sheet 1 of 4
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0081
REV P04
Wetlands Islands and Ephemeral Features Cross-sections Sheet 2 of 4
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0082
REV P03
Wetlands Islands and Ephemeral Features Cross-sections Sheet 3 of 4
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0083
REV P03
Wetlands Islands and Ephemeral Features Cross-sections Sheet 4 of 4
Reason - To ensure provision of a satisfactory development.
(The site was viewed by the Site Viewing Working Party)
Proposal: Application for approval of all Reserved Matters (siting, scale, external appearance and landscaping) relating to Phase 2 (Wetland) of the Thicket Reservoir development pursuant to condition 2 of the Hybrid permission planning reference APP/20/00990 dated 15th October 2021.
The Committee considered the written report and recommendation from the Head of Planning to grant reserved matters approval.
The Committee received supplementary information, circulated prior to the
meeting, which included:
1. Written deputations submitted by Ms Viney, Councillor Rason, Councillor Gray and the applicant’s agent.
2. an update sheet which included an officers’ briefing presentation and information regarding East Hampshire District Council’s decision on the Havant Thicket Reservoir Reserved Matters application pertaingin to their administrative area (reference 51680/008).
The Committee was addressed by:
1. Ms Viney, who reiterated the issues set out in the written deputation submitted.
In response to questions from members of the Committee, Mr Viney stated that:
· Experts had felt that some minor ground manipulation would be valuable, whereby islands and channels around the island could be created.
2. Councillor Gray who reiterated the issues set out in the written deputation submitted.
3. Councillor Rason who reiterated the issues set out in the written deputation submitted.
4. Mr Hanson and Mr Turner, the applicant and the applicant’s agent, who reiterated the issues set out in the written deputation submitted.
In response to questions from members of the Committee, Mr Hanson and Mr Turner stated that:
· Benching formed part of the submitted proposals.
· Geogrips were used as a material to add stability to the islands and ensure its longevity.
· The mounds located in the site would not be located on areas designated as wet grassland and would help reduce predation in certain locations.
· Ecological experts of Havant Borough Council had raised no objection regarding the mounds located in the site.
· The technical note had asked for local ground manipulation, which had been carried out.
· The landforms would add to the habitat complexity within the site.
· The landscape ecology management plan had set out a maintenance regime for the wetland to ensure the wetland achieves its objectives in the long term.
· Public consultees had formed part of the design process; however specialist advice also had to be taken into account in, which would ultimately inform the design of the wetland.
· The raised landforms and fencing would offer animals in the wetland some protections from their predators.
· The water depths around the island would range between 0.6 to 1.4 metres.
· The natural topography of the ground had dictated the design of the island features.
· The orientation of bird hides would be finalised as a condition.
The officers commented on the issues raised by public speakers and in the written submissions as follows:
· Havant could only grant or refuse that part of the reserved matters application that fell within Havant’s boundary.
· East Hampshire District Council had granted reserved matters approval through delegated powers for the parts of the Wetland which fells within their boundary.
· The design of the wetland had evolved as more detailed information had become available.
· Members of the Committee should consider whether the current scheme meets the fixed parameters, and whether the scheme would be acceptable.
· Officers considered the scheme, taken as a whole, to be acceptable in planning terms.
· The plastic membrane material choice was not itself an objectionable material choice.
· The majority of grassland lost within the site was not considered to be priority wet grassland. This would be compensated by the woodlands in the north of the site.
· The design driver behind the wetland was not primarily to compensate for the negative impacts towards bird species.
· The prime area of wet grassland creation would be in compartment 0, which is in the far east of the site.
· The area of the mound would stretch between the open water habitat, grasslands and the woodland.
In response to questions from members of the Committee, officers stated that:
a. members should consider whether the proposal would be considered acceptable.
b. The applicant and the landowner would be responsible for maintaining the site.
c. Havant Borough Council did not have to affect the East Hampshire District Council application which fell outside of its boundary; the decision by East Hampshire to grant reserved matters approval was a material consideration.
d. The mounds were not considered to be ecological objectionable.
e. Condition 28 of the original permission, referred to in the report, have mentioned a landscaping condition for the site.
The Committee discussed the application in detail together with the views raised by deputees.
The Committee considered the mounds located in the site, their purposes and locations, the area of the site which Havant Borough Council can consider in this application, and the needs of the residents in the future.
RESOLVED that application APP/24/00186 be granted permission subject to the following conditions (subject to such changes and/or additions that the Head of Planning considers necessary to impose prior to the issuing of the decision):
Conditions:
1. Details of Bird Hides and Means of Access
Prior to the first filling of the Wetland, details of the bird hides (including design, orientation, materials and screening) and means of access, barriers and screens, shall be submitted to and approved in writing by the Local Planning Authority. The development shall be carried out in accordance with the approved details and retained thereafter.
Reason: In the interests of biodiversity, visitor amenity and safety and protection of new and existing habitats in accordance with the National Planning Policy Framework (2023) and Havant Borough Local Plan (Core Strategy) Policies CS11 and DM8.
2. Approved Drawings
The development hereby permitted shall be carried out in accordance with the following approved plans and particulars:
Documents
Adams Hendry Consulting Ltd Covering letter dated 13th May 2024
Environmental Statement of Conformity dated 4th March 2024 reference HTR-RHD-P2-XX-RP-Z-0003 Rev P03
Planning statement prepared by Adams Hendry Consulting Ltd dated March 2024 ref JTM/1856/Phase2RMA
Drawings
Drawing Number
Title
HTR-GHD-ZZ-RE-DR-Z-0002
REV P04
Proposed Reservoir Works Key Plan Phase 2
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0012
REV P10
Outline Wetlands Embankment Overall Design Strategy
HTR-COF-EM-RE-DR-GE-4004
REV P01
Planning Drawing Wetlands Retaining Embankment Proposed Site Layout
HTR-COF-EM-RE-DR-GE-4005
REV P01
Planning Drawing Wetlands Retaining Embankment Design Cross Sections
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0050
REV P07
Landscape and Ecology Proposals
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0051
REV P05
Wetlands Embankment Active Water Control Feature - Penstock Detail
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0052
REV P06
Wetland Spillway Detail - No Vehicle Access (Section & Plan)
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0053
REV P06
Wetland Spillway Detail (Section and Plan)
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0054
REV P05
Wetland Spillway Detail Compartment 3/4 (Section and Plan)
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0055
REV P05
Wetland Spillway Detail Compartment 1/2 (Section and Plan)
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0056 REV P08
Wetland Retaining Structure - Landscape General Arrangement Sheet 1 of 6
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0057
REV P07
Wetland Retaining Structure - Landscape General Arrangement Sheet 2 of 6
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0058
REV P07
Wetland Retaining Structure - Landscape General Arrangement Sheet 3 of 6
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0059
REV P07
Wetland Retaining Structure - Landscape General Arrangement Sheet 4 of 6
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0060
REV P06
Wetland Retaining Structure - Landscape General Arrangement Sheet 5 of 6
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0061
REV P07
Wetland Retaining Structure - Landscape General Arrangement Sheet 6 of 6
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-S-0062
REV P08
Wetlands Active Water Control Penstock Chamber Details Compartment 4
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-S-0063
REV P08
Wetlands Active Water Control Penstock Chamber Details Compartment 3
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-S-0064
REV P08
Wetlands Active Water Control Penstock Chamber Details Compartment 2
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-S-0065
Wetlands Active Water Control Penstock Chamber Details Compartment 1
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0080
REV P04
Wetlands Islands and Ephemeral Features Cross-sections Sheet 1 of 4
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0081
REV P04
Wetlands Islands and Ephemeral Features Cross-sections Sheet 2 of 4
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0082
REV P03
Wetlands Islands and Ephemeral Features Cross-sections Sheet 3 of 4
HTR-GHD-WC-ZZ-DR-L-0083
REV P03
Wetlands Islands and Ephemeral Features Cross-sections Sheet 4 of 4
Reason - To ensure provision of a satisfactory development.
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