Hampshire County Council
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Meeting
Economy, Transport and Environment Select Committee - Hampshire
Meeting Times
Scheduled Time
Start:
Thursday, 23rd September 2021
10:00 AM
Thursday, 23rd September 2021
10:00 AM
End:
Thursday, 23rd September 2021
2:00 PM
Thursday, 23rd September 2021
2:00 PM
Actual Time
Started:
Thursday, 23rd September 2021
12:00 AM
Thursday, 23rd September 2021
12:00 AM
Finished:
Thursday, 23rd September 2021
12:00 AM
Thursday, 23rd September 2021
12:00 AM
Meeting Status
Status:
Confirmed
Confirmed
Date:
23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021
Location:
Ashburton Hall - HCC
Ashburton Hall - HCC
Meeting Attendees
Committee Member
Leader of the Council
Committee Member
Council Staff
Sam Horne
Expected
Secretary
Administrator
Expected
Committee Member
Councillor Gary Hughes
Present, as expected
Liberal Democrats Spokesperson
Secretary
Katy Sherwood
Expected
Agenda
1
Apologies for absence
To receive any apologies for absence.
Minutes
Apologies were received from Councillor Hugh Lumby.
2
Declarations of interest
All Members who believe they have a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest in any matter to be considered at the meeting must declare that interest and, having regard to Part 3 Paragraph 1.5 of the County Council's Members’ Code of Conduct, leave the meeting while the matter is discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with Paragraph 1.6 of the Code. Furthermore all Members with a Personal Interest in a matter being considered at the meeting should consider, having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 4 of the Code, whether such interest should be declared, and having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 5 of the Code, consider whether it is appropriate to leave the meeting while the matter is discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with the Code.
Minutes
Members were mindful that where they believed they had a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest in any matter considered at the meeting they must declare that interest at the time of the relevant debate and, having regard to the circumstances described in Part 3, Paragraph 1.5 of the County Council's Members' Code of Conduct, leave the meeting while the matter was discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with Paragraph 1.6 of the Code. Furthermore Members were mindful that where they believed they had a Non-Pecuniary interest in a matter being considered at the meeting they considered whether such interest should be declared, and having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 2 of the Code, considered whether it was appropriate to leave the meeting whilst the matter was discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with the Code.
Councillor Martin Tod declared an interest as the Cabinet Member responsible for waste at Winchester City Council and also the Deputy Chair at Project Integra.
Councillor Rupert Kyrle declared an interest as a Cabinet Member for Environment at Eastleigh Borough Council and a Member on Project Integra.
Councillor Martin Tod declared an interest as the Cabinet Member responsible for waste at Winchester City Council and also the Deputy Chair at Project Integra.
Councillor Rupert Kyrle declared an interest as a Cabinet Member for Environment at Eastleigh Borough Council and a Member on Project Integra.
3
Minutes of previous meeting
To confirm the minutes of the previous meeting
Attachments:
- Document Draft Minutes 15 Sep 2021
Minutes
The minutes of the last meeting were reviewed and agreed.
4
Deputations
To receive any deputations notified under Standing Order 12.
Minutes
There were no deputations.
5
Chairman's Announcements
To receive any announcements the Chairman may wish to make.
Minutes
The Chairman confirmed that an additional item had been added to the agenda on Bus Back Better.
6
Joint Municipal Waste Management Strategy
To pre-scrutinise a report to the Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment, which sets the strategic direction for the Project Integra partnership.
Attachments:
- Document Cover Report 15 Sep 2021
- Document Main Report 15 Sep 2021
- Document Appendix 15 Sep 2021
Minutes
The Select Committee pre-scrutinised a report for the Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment on the Joint Municipal Waste Strategy (item 6 in the minute book).
The officer summarised the report highlighting the importance of working with partners on a twin-stream system that would be effective for carbon reduction but required substantial investment. The strategy was very high level and a fluid document that allowed flexibility as more details were made available around the funding and funding structures.
The Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment enforced the importance of it being a collective ambition across the Hampshire area and Districts and Boroughs as well as at County level.
RESOLVED
The Select Committee supported the recommendations being proposed to the Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment in page 1 of the attached report;
The officer summarised the report highlighting the importance of working with partners on a twin-stream system that would be effective for carbon reduction but required substantial investment. The strategy was very high level and a fluid document that allowed flexibility as more details were made available around the funding and funding structures.
The Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment enforced the importance of it being a collective ambition across the Hampshire area and Districts and Boroughs as well as at County level.
RESOLVED
The Select Committee supported the recommendations being proposed to the Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment in page 1 of the attached report;
7
Savings Programme to 2023 – Revenue Savings Proposals
To pre-scrutinise a report to the Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment regarding savings proposals.
Attachments:
- Document Cover Report 15 Sep 2021
- Document Main Report 15 Sep 2021
- Document Appendix 15 Sep 2021
- Document SP23 Presentation 15 Sep 2021
Minutes
The Select Committee pre-scrutinised a report from the Director of Economy, Transport and Environment and Senior Finance Business Partner (item 7 in the minute book) on the Savings Programme for 2023 (SP23).
It was reported that the last government spending review was for one year, making forward planning difficult. Forecasting indicated that government funding would not fully meet the financial pressures the County Council faced, therefore there would be a funding gap in April 2023 and the Council would need to make savings of £80 million to balance the budget. This was in addition to £45 million in savings from previous transformation programmes that were yet to be delivered.
For Economy, Transport and Environment it was confirmed that £10.2million in new savings had been identified totalling over £79 cumulatively by 2023/24. This was 12% lower than the cash available to the department in 2009/10.
The current proposals were summarised following a consultation that had taken place, which had been altered to take into account the feedback that had been received.
During questions, Members learned that lobbying did continue with Central Government for funding, but any further tax increase could not be done without a referendum. Anaerobic Digestion was an area being investigated to assist with recycling, but there was no funding to do this and it require large investment and it was unlikely to generate additional income.
Members acknowledged that following the intensive savings already made, discretionary services now had to be looked at in order to try and achieve any further savings.
Any further funding received now would not be included as part of the 2023 programme and would be planned for April 2023 onwards.
The Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment confirmed that work continued to be done in some areas of savings to find the best forward and thanked officers for their work.
RESOLVED
The Select Committee supported the recommendations being proposed to the Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment in section 2 (page 1) of the attached report.
It was reported that the last government spending review was for one year, making forward planning difficult. Forecasting indicated that government funding would not fully meet the financial pressures the County Council faced, therefore there would be a funding gap in April 2023 and the Council would need to make savings of £80 million to balance the budget. This was in addition to £45 million in savings from previous transformation programmes that were yet to be delivered.
For Economy, Transport and Environment it was confirmed that £10.2million in new savings had been identified totalling over £79 cumulatively by 2023/24. This was 12% lower than the cash available to the department in 2009/10.
The current proposals were summarised following a consultation that had taken place, which had been altered to take into account the feedback that had been received.
During questions, Members learned that lobbying did continue with Central Government for funding, but any further tax increase could not be done without a referendum. Anaerobic Digestion was an area being investigated to assist with recycling, but there was no funding to do this and it require large investment and it was unlikely to generate additional income.
Members acknowledged that following the intensive savings already made, discretionary services now had to be looked at in order to try and achieve any further savings.
Any further funding received now would not be included as part of the 2023 programme and would be planned for April 2023 onwards.
The Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment confirmed that work continued to be done in some areas of savings to find the best forward and thanked officers for their work.
RESOLVED
The Select Committee supported the recommendations being proposed to the Executive Lead Member for Economy, Transport and Environment in section 2 (page 1) of the attached report.
8
Bus Back Better - Presentation
To receive a presentation from the Public Transport Manager on Bus Back Better.
Attachments:
- Document Item 8 - BBB Presentation 15 Sep 2021
Minutes
The Select Committee received a presentation on the Bus Back Better, the National Bus strategy published in March that set out the future of bus services.
Many initiatives had already been delivered, including 550 real-time screens, Wi-Fi and the capacity for contactless payments. The pandemic had naturally effected the number of users on buses, but patronage was starting to increase again – particularly during the day.
Rural areas continued to be a challenge due to the numbers and routes available that are financially viable. Taxi-share services had replaced many of the rural routes although were not as visible.
During questions, Members learned that further work was being done to integrate bus and rail more in the longer term to make public transport more accessible. Cross-boundary accessibility was also being looked at.
Members thanked officers for their work and the presentation.
Many initiatives had already been delivered, including 550 real-time screens, Wi-Fi and the capacity for contactless payments. The pandemic had naturally effected the number of users on buses, but patronage was starting to increase again – particularly during the day.
Rural areas continued to be a challenge due to the numbers and routes available that are financially viable. Taxi-share services had replaced many of the rural routes although were not as visible.
During questions, Members learned that further work was being done to integrate bus and rail more in the longer term to make public transport more accessible. Cross-boundary accessibility was also being looked at.
Members thanked officers for their work and the presentation.
9
Work Programme
To review and approve the current work programme for the Economy, Transport and Environment Select Committee.
Attachments:
- Document Work Programme 15 Sep 2021
Minutes
The Select Committee considered the work programme and discussed potential new items as well as those already proposed and it was requested that ‘Parking and Transport Management Agency review’ be added.
Following discussion, the work programme was agreed by the Select Committee.
Following discussion, the work programme was agreed by the Select Committee.
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