Hampshire County Council
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Meeting
Education Advisory Panel - Hampshire
Meeting Times
Scheduled Time
Start:
Wednesday, 22nd March 2023
10:00 AM
Wednesday, 22nd March 2023
10:00 AM
End:
Wednesday, 22nd March 2023
2:00 PM
Wednesday, 22nd March 2023
2:00 PM
Actual Time
Started:
Wednesday, 22nd March 2023
12:00 AM
Wednesday, 22nd March 2023
12:00 AM
Finished:
Wednesday, 22nd March 2023
12:00 AM
Wednesday, 22nd March 2023
12:00 AM
Meeting Status
Status:
Confirmed
Confirmed
Date:
22 Mar 2023
22 Mar 2023
Location:
Ashburton Hall, EII Court, The Castle, Winchester
Ashburton Hall, EII Court, The Castle, Winchester
Meeting Attendees
Independent Group Deputy
Co-opted Member
Chris Anders
Hampshire Secondary Schools
Present, as expected
Co-opted Member
Justin Innes
Hampshire Special Schools
Present, as expected
Co-opted Member
Catherine Hobbs
Catholic Church
Absent
Co-opted Member
Jeff Williams
Church of England
Absent
Co-opted Member
Julie Kelly
Hampshire Teacher's Liaison Panel
Present, as expected
Co-opted Member
Ian Potter
Hampshire Teacher's Liaison Panel
Apologies
Co-opted Member
Sharron Morton
Hampshire Primary Schools
Present, as expected
Agenda
1
Apologies for absence
To receive any apologies for absence received.
Minutes
Apologies were received from Cllr Bowerman, Cllr James and Ian Potter.
2
Declarations of interest
All Members who believe they have a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest in any matter to be considered at the meeting must declare that interest and, having regard to Part 3 Paragraph 1.5 of the County Council's Members’ Code of Conduct, leave the meeting while the matter is discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with Paragraph 1.6 of the Code. Furthermore all Members with a Personal Interest in a matter being considered at the meeting should consider, having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 4 of the Code, whether such interest should be declared, and having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 5 of the Code, consider whether it is appropriate to leave the meeting while the matter is discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with the Code.
Minutes
Members were mindful that where they believed they had a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest in any matter considered at the meeting they must declare that interest at the time of the relevant debate and, having regard to the circumstances described in Part 3, Paragraph 1.5 of the County Council's Members' Code of Conduct, leave the meeting while the matter was discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with Paragraph 1.6 of the Code. Furthermore Members were mindful that where they believed they had a Non-Pecuniary interest in a matter being considered at the meeting they considered whether such interest should be declared, and having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 2 of the Code, considered whether it was appropriate to leave the meeting whilst the matter was discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with the Code.
3
Minutes of previous meeting
To confirm the minutes of the previous meeting
Attachments:
- Document EAP Minutes 091122 14 Mar 2023
Minutes
The minutes of the last meeting were reviewed and agreed.
4
Deputations
To receive any deputations notified under Standing Order 12.
Minutes
No deputations were received.
5
Chairman's Announcements
To receive any announcements the Chairman may wish to make.
Minutes
The Chairman noted that this was the last meeting for Brian Pope, Assistant Director for Education & Inclusion, ahead of his retirement. On behalf of the Panel, the Chairman thanked Brian for his outstanding contribution to education in Hampshire.
6
Suspensions and Exclusions
To receive a presentation from the Director of Children's Services providing detail of the work undertaken in terms of school improvement relating to pupil behaviours post pandemic.
Attachments:
- Document Presentation - Suspensions and Exclusions 14 Mar 2023
Minutes
The Panel received a presentation from the Director of Children’s Services providing an update on suspensions and exclusions within Hampshire.
The Panel received an overview of suspensions and exclusions across Hampshire’s schools, separated by Primary, Secondary, Special and other educational settings. These figures were also shown in comparison to the national picture.
The Panel noted that the directorate had channels of communications with schools dedicated to these issues, with most queries dealt with within 48 hours. The directorate operated a ‘support and challenge’ approach, building on the successful relationship with all Hampshire schools irrespective of their designation. It was noted that, if the current trends of increased permanent exclusion remain then work will need to be undertaken to incentivise inclusion over exclusion. There is a need to build more resilience in schools and look at proactive rather than reactive measures around challenging behaviour.
In response to questions members found that:
· Suspensions are a useful tool for behaviour management but there is difficulty in judging when it is appropriate. This is often in relation to issues affecting other pupils or disproportionately using school resources.
· Mental Health Support Teams have been established around the County to support Schools to prevent suspensions and exclusions were possible.
· The County has ways of sharing best practise between schools.
· The welfare of School staff is the responsibility of the individual school, but the Local Authority offers services in this area to support this.
· Places at a new educational setting need to be provided to excluded pupils within six days and that this is the responsibility of the Local Authority, including pupils excluded from Academies.
· The County’s higher suspension numbers could be a repercussion of the lower exclusion figures.
Resolved:
That the Education Advisory Panel note the update on suspensions and exclusions within Hampshire.
The Panel received an overview of suspensions and exclusions across Hampshire’s schools, separated by Primary, Secondary, Special and other educational settings. These figures were also shown in comparison to the national picture.
The Panel noted that the directorate had channels of communications with schools dedicated to these issues, with most queries dealt with within 48 hours. The directorate operated a ‘support and challenge’ approach, building on the successful relationship with all Hampshire schools irrespective of their designation. It was noted that, if the current trends of increased permanent exclusion remain then work will need to be undertaken to incentivise inclusion over exclusion. There is a need to build more resilience in schools and look at proactive rather than reactive measures around challenging behaviour.
In response to questions members found that:
· Suspensions are a useful tool for behaviour management but there is difficulty in judging when it is appropriate. This is often in relation to issues affecting other pupils or disproportionately using school resources.
· Mental Health Support Teams have been established around the County to support Schools to prevent suspensions and exclusions were possible.
· The County has ways of sharing best practise between schools.
· The welfare of School staff is the responsibility of the individual school, but the Local Authority offers services in this area to support this.
· Places at a new educational setting need to be provided to excluded pupils within six days and that this is the responsibility of the Local Authority, including pupils excluded from Academies.
· The County’s higher suspension numbers could be a repercussion of the lower exclusion figures.
Resolved:
That the Education Advisory Panel note the update on suspensions and exclusions within Hampshire.
7
Ofsted Inspections - Emergent Themes
To receive a presentation from the Director of Children's Services providing an overview of the areas of strength Ofsted are finding alongside the similarities within areas for development.
Attachments:
- Document Presentation - Ofsted Inspections – Emergent Themes 14 Mar 2023
Minutes
The Panel received a presentation from the Director of Children’s Services providing an update on emergent themes from recent Ofsted inspections.
It was noted that there had been forty inspections for Primary Schools in the 2023 Spring term so far, and four for Secondaries. Officer’s set out the various strengths that had been identified for each type of school, alongside the areas for development.
For Primary Schools strengths included strong attainment and school leadership, positive situations for attendance, behaviour and attitudes and positive work for pupil’s wider development. Areas for development included safeguarding recording, phonics and early reading and several areas in relation to the delivery of the curriculum.
For Secondary Schools strengths included ambitious curriculums, SEND provision, PSHE, high standards, expectations and achievement and supportive relationships between staff and students. Areas for development included pupils conduct and attitude to learning, parental involvement and curriculum development including the uptake of languages.
In response to questions members found that:
· Support is in place during Ofsted inspections for early career teachers and the Ofsted inspectors will be aware of who these are at each school. Support from the local authority is also in place for all inspections more generally.
· There is a new Ofsted framework which holds a higher benchmark then the previous system, meaning that it is possible for a school to have improved yet still be assessed as ‘Good’ when previously ‘Outstanding’. The Local Authority provides support to school’s when their Ofsted rating changes, including input from Corporate Communications.
Resolved:
That the Education Advisory Panel note the update on emergent themes from recent Ofsted inspections.
It was noted that there had been forty inspections for Primary Schools in the 2023 Spring term so far, and four for Secondaries. Officer’s set out the various strengths that had been identified for each type of school, alongside the areas for development.
For Primary Schools strengths included strong attainment and school leadership, positive situations for attendance, behaviour and attitudes and positive work for pupil’s wider development. Areas for development included safeguarding recording, phonics and early reading and several areas in relation to the delivery of the curriculum.
For Secondary Schools strengths included ambitious curriculums, SEND provision, PSHE, high standards, expectations and achievement and supportive relationships between staff and students. Areas for development included pupils conduct and attitude to learning, parental involvement and curriculum development including the uptake of languages.
In response to questions members found that:
· Support is in place during Ofsted inspections for early career teachers and the Ofsted inspectors will be aware of who these are at each school. Support from the local authority is also in place for all inspections more generally.
· There is a new Ofsted framework which holds a higher benchmark then the previous system, meaning that it is possible for a school to have improved yet still be assessed as ‘Good’ when previously ‘Outstanding’. The Local Authority provides support to school’s when their Ofsted rating changes, including input from Corporate Communications.
Resolved:
That the Education Advisory Panel note the update on emergent themes from recent Ofsted inspections.
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