Hampshire County Council
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Meeting
Children and Young People Select Committee - Hampshire
Meeting Times
Scheduled Time
Start:
Tuesday, 19th November 2024
10:00 AM
Tuesday, 19th November 2024
10:00 AM
End:
Tuesday, 19th November 2024
2:00 PM
Tuesday, 19th November 2024
2:00 PM
Meeting Status
Status:
Confirmed; Call-In Meeting
Confirmed; Call-In Meeting
Date:
19 Nov 2024
19 Nov 2024
Location:
Ashburton Hall - HCC
Ashburton Hall - HCC
Meeting Attendees
Independent Group Deputy
Committee Member
Borough Councillor
Councillor Joanne Burton
Present, as expected
Independent Group Spokesperson
Co-opted Member
Vacancy
Catholic Schools Representative
Absent
Co-opted Member
Robert Sanders
Church of England Schools Representative
Present, as expected
Co-opted Member
Gemma Rainger
Parent Governor for Primary Schools
Present, as expected
Co-opted Member
Richard Mounfield
Parent Governor for Secondary Schools
Absent
Co-opted Member
Christie Franklin
Parent Governor for Special Schools
Apologies
Agenda
1
Apologies for Absence
To receive any apologies for absence.
Minutes
Apologies had been received from Cllrs Branson, Hayre and North – Cllr Carpenter and Cllr Reid were in attendance as the Conservative group deputy.
Apologies had also been received from Cllr Bains – Cllr Groves was in attendance as the Liberal Democrat group deputy.
Apologies had also been received from Christie Franklin, Parent Governor for Hampshire’s Special Schools.
Cllr Chadd, Executive Lead Member for Children’s Services and Cllr Forster, Executive Member for Education were in attendance.
Apologies had also been received from Cllr Bains – Cllr Groves was in attendance as the Liberal Democrat group deputy.
Apologies had also been received from Christie Franklin, Parent Governor for Hampshire’s Special Schools.
Cllr Chadd, Executive Lead Member for Children’s Services and Cllr Forster, Executive Member for Education were in attendance.
2
Declarations of Interest
All Members who believe they have a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest in any matter to be considered at the meeting must declare that interest and, having regard to Part 3 Paragraph 1.5 of the County Council's Members’ Code of Conduct, leave the meeting while the matter is discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with Paragraph 1.6 of the Code. Furthermore all Members with a Personal Interest in a matter being considered at the meeting should consider, having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 4 of the Code, whether such interest should be declared, and having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 5 of the Code, consider whether it is appropriate to leave the meeting while the matter is discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with the Code.
Minutes
Members were mindful that where they believed they had a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest in any matter considered at the meeting they must declare that interest at the time of the relevant debate and, having regard to the circumstances described in Part 3, Paragraph 1.5 of the County Council's Members' Code of Conduct, leave the meeting while the matter was discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with Paragraph 1.6 of the Code. Furthermore Members were mindful that where they believed they had a Personal interest in a matter being considered at the meeting they considered whether such interest should be declared, and having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 5 of the Code, considered whether it was appropriate to leave the meeting whilst the matter was discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with the Code.
No declarations were made.
No declarations were made.
3
Minutes of Previous Meeting
To confirm the minutes of the previous meeting.
Attachments:
- Document Minutes Public Pack, 25/10/2024 Children and Young People Select Committee 11 Nov 2024
Minutes
The Minutes of the previous meeting were confirmed as a correct record and signed by the Chairman.
4
Deputations
To receive any deputations notified under Standing Order 12.
Minutes
The Committee did not receive any deputations.
5
Chairman's Announcements
To receive any announcements the Chairman may wish to make.
Minutes
The Chairman congratulated everyone involved in the opening of Hockley House.
6
North Whiteley New Secondary School - Consideration of Request to Exercise Call-in Powers
To consider a report from the Assistant Director – Legal Services and Monitoring Officer, which asks the Children and Young People (Overview and Scrutiny) Committee to consider whether it should exercise its powers under Section 9F of Part 1A of the Local Government Act 2000, referred to in the County Council’s Constitution as ‘Call-in’.
Attachments:
- Document Decision Report - North Whiteley New Secondary School – Consideration of Request to Exercise Call-in Powers 11 Nov 2024
- Document Appendix 1 - Decision Record - North Whiteley New Secondary School 11 Nov 2024
- Document Appendix 2 - Decision Report - North Whiteley New Secondary School 11 Nov 2024
- Document Appendix 2a - North Whiteley New Secondary School 11 Nov 2024
- Document Appendix 2b - North Whiteley New Secondary School 11 Nov 2024
- Document Appendix 2c - North Whiteley New Secondary School 11 Nov 2024
- Document Appendix 2d - North Whiteley New Secondary School 11 Nov 2024
- Document Appendix 2e - North Whiteley New Secondary School 11 Nov 2024
- Document Appendix 2f - North Whiteley New Secondary School 11 Nov 2024
- Document Appendix 2g - North Whiteley New Secondary School 11 Nov 2024
- Document Appendix 3 - HCC Constitution - Part 3, Chapter 3, Paragraph 1.17 11 Nov 2024
Minutes
The Select Committee received a report from the Monitoring Officer, which asked the committee to consider whether or not it should exercise its powers under Section 9F of Part 1A of the Local Government Act 2000 (‘the 2000 Act’), referred to in the County Council’s Constitution as ‘Call-in’.
Members of the committee who supported the request for the committee to exercise the above powers provided their reasons for doing so. These centred around the decision made to proceed with the relocation recommendation not being in line with the community response received through the initial public consultation. In addition other concerns were raised around the decision relating to potential transportation and environmental impacts, educational need within Fareham, health concerns for parents and children, development in the local area, Welborne impacts, the effect on a disadvantaged area within Fareham and Fareham Borough Councils recent decision to invest in a new community centre site next door to Henry Cort.
In response to questions, the committee heard that the directorate had a statutory duty to consult on this issue, and were required to do so with a single proposal. Officers assured the committee that this proposal was based on a long term outlook, with the best interests of Hampshire’s young people at the forefront of Officer’s minds.
Officers also noted that consultations were always entered into with good faith, and subsequent recommendations to Executive Members would be considerate of feedback received alongside the Officers expertise.
With the agreement of the Chairman, Cllr Bryant addressed the Select Committee to share her views as the member for Fareham Town.
During debate it was established that the decision that had been called in was a decision to consult, and so no final decision had yet been made. It was also noted that if the authority did not take a decision in relation to education provision in the relevant area, educational attainment could suffer due to undersubscribed schools and the various issues this can lead to.
Following questions and debate, recommendation 2a was voted on with the following outcome.
In Favour 5
In Against 11
The Executive Lead Member for Children’s Services thanked members of the committee for sharing their views, noting that additional information had been requested to be provided alongside the consultation.
RESOLVED
That Members of the CYP Select Committee determined that they should not recommend that the Executive Lead Member for Children Services re-considers their decisions as set out in the Decision Record attached at Appendix 1.
Members of the committee who supported the request for the committee to exercise the above powers provided their reasons for doing so. These centred around the decision made to proceed with the relocation recommendation not being in line with the community response received through the initial public consultation. In addition other concerns were raised around the decision relating to potential transportation and environmental impacts, educational need within Fareham, health concerns for parents and children, development in the local area, Welborne impacts, the effect on a disadvantaged area within Fareham and Fareham Borough Councils recent decision to invest in a new community centre site next door to Henry Cort.
In response to questions, the committee heard that the directorate had a statutory duty to consult on this issue, and were required to do so with a single proposal. Officers assured the committee that this proposal was based on a long term outlook, with the best interests of Hampshire’s young people at the forefront of Officer’s minds.
Officers also noted that consultations were always entered into with good faith, and subsequent recommendations to Executive Members would be considerate of feedback received alongside the Officers expertise.
With the agreement of the Chairman, Cllr Bryant addressed the Select Committee to share her views as the member for Fareham Town.
During debate it was established that the decision that had been called in was a decision to consult, and so no final decision had yet been made. It was also noted that if the authority did not take a decision in relation to education provision in the relevant area, educational attainment could suffer due to undersubscribed schools and the various issues this can lead to.
Following questions and debate, recommendation 2a was voted on with the following outcome.
In Favour 5
In Against 11
The Executive Lead Member for Children’s Services thanked members of the committee for sharing their views, noting that additional information had been requested to be provided alongside the consultation.
RESOLVED
That Members of the CYP Select Committee determined that they should not recommend that the Executive Lead Member for Children Services re-considers their decisions as set out in the Decision Record attached at Appendix 1.
7
Work Programme
To consider and approve the Children and Young People Select Committee Work Programme.
Attachments:
- Document CYP SC - Work Programme 11 Nov 2024
Minutes
The Director of People and Organisation presented the Committee’s work programme.
It was noted that any future decisions on significant school reorganisation would be strongly considered for pre-scrutiny by the Select Committee in future.
RESOLVED:
That the Children and Young People Select Committee discussed and agreed potential items for the work programme that can be prioritised and allocated by the Chairman of the Children and Young People Select Committee in consultation with the Director of Children’s Services.
It was noted that any future decisions on significant school reorganisation would be strongly considered for pre-scrutiny by the Select Committee in future.
RESOLVED:
That the Children and Young People Select Committee discussed and agreed potential items for the work programme that can be prioritised and allocated by the Chairman of the Children and Young People Select Committee in consultation with the Director of Children’s Services.
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