Hampshire County Council
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Meeting
Joint Health Overview and Scrutiny Committee - Hampshire Together - Hampshire
Meeting Times
Scheduled Time
Start:
Friday, 18th December 2020
10:00 AM
Friday, 18th December 2020
10:00 AM
End:
Friday, 18th December 2020
2:00 PM
Friday, 18th December 2020
2:00 PM
Actual Time
Started:
Friday, 18th December 2020
12:00 AM
Friday, 18th December 2020
12:00 AM
Finished:
Friday, 18th December 2020
12:00 AM
Friday, 18th December 2020
12:00 AM
Meeting Status
Status:
Confirmed
Confirmed
Date:
18 Dec 2020
18 Dec 2020
Location:
Virtual Teams Meeting - Microsoft Teams
Virtual Teams Meeting - Microsoft Teams
Meeting Attendees
Committee Member
Vice Chairman of the Council
Committee Member
Councillor Roger Huxstep
Present, as expected
Committee Member
Councillor David Keast
Present, as expected
Committee Member
Councillor Professor Barrie Margetts
Southampton City Council
Present, as expected
Committee Member
Councillor Mike Thornton
Present, as expected
Agenda
1
Apologies for absence
To receive any apologies for absence.
Minutes
No apologies were received, all Members were in attendance.
2
Declarations of interest
All Members who believe they have a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest in any matter to be considered at the meeting must declare that interest and, having regard to the circumstances described in Part 3 Paragraph 1.5 of the County Council's Members' Code of Conduct, leave the meeting while the matter is discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with Paragraph 1.6 of the Code. Furthermore all Members with a Personal Interest in a matter being considered at the meeting should consider, having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 4 of the Code, whether such interest should be declared, and having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 5 of the Code, consider whether it is appropriate to leave the meeting while the matter is discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with the Code.
Minutes
Members were mindful that where they believed they had a Disclosable Pecuniary Interest in any matter considered at the meeting they must declare that interest at the time of the relevant debate and, having regard to the circumstances described in Part 3, Paragraph 1.5 of the County Council's Members' Code of Conduct, leave the meeting while the matter was discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with Paragraph 1.6 of the Code. Furthermore Members were mindful that where they believed they had a Personal Interest in a matter being considered at the meeting they considered whether such interest should be declared, and having regard to Part 5, Paragraph 5 of the Code, considered whether it was appropriate to leave the meeting whilst the matter was discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with the Code.
Councillor Prof Barrie Margetts declared that was on the Council of Governors for the University Hospital Southampton NHS Foundation Trust.
Councillor Rod Cooper declared that he was on the Council of Governors for Frimley Health NHS Foundation Trust.
Councillor Prof Barrie Margetts declared that was on the Council of Governors for the University Hospital Southampton NHS Foundation Trust.
Councillor Rod Cooper declared that he was on the Council of Governors for Frimley Health NHS Foundation Trust.
3
Election of Chairman
To elect the Chairman of the Joint Committee.
Minutes
Councillor Roger Huxstep was nominated to Chair the Joint Committee and following a vote of the members present was duly elected.
4
Election of Vice Chairman
To elect a Vice Chairman of the Joint Committee.
Minutes
Councillor Ann Briggs was nominated for Vice Chairman of the Joint Committee and following a vote of those present was duly elected.
5
Chairman's Announcements
To receive any announcements the Chairman may wish to make.
Minutes
The Chairman invited the Members on the Joint Committee to introduce themselves. The Chairman highlighted that Councillor Bill Chapman from Surrey County Council was in attendance as an observer.
6
Deputations
To receive any deputations notified under Standing Order 12.
Minutes
The Committee did not receive any deputations.
7
Terms of Reference of the Joint Committee
To note the terms of reference for the joint committee.
Attachments:
- Document Joint Health Scrutiny Committee Terms of Reference - Hampshire Together 10 Dec 2020
Minutes
The Joint Committee reviewed the Terms of Reference for the ‘Joint Health Overview and Scrutiny Committee (Hampshire Together Programme)’ (see Item 7 in the Minute Book) as agreed at the Hampshire County Council meeting on 3 December 2020.
RESOLVED:
The Joint Committee note the Terms of Reference for the Joint Health Overview and Scrutiny Committee (Hampshire Together Programme).
RESOLVED:
The Joint Committee note the Terms of Reference for the Joint Health Overview and Scrutiny Committee (Hampshire Together Programme).
8
Members not on the committee speaking at meetings
To consider whether to suspend Standing Order 12 at meetings of the Joint Committee to allow County and District Councillors not on the committee to speak at meetings.
Minutes
The Joint Committee agreed to suspend standing order 12 to allow Councillor Jackie Porter to speak. Councillor Porter noted that the County Council Standing Orders exclude elected members from making a deputation to a meeting and exclude a repeat deputation on the same topic within six months. She requested that these parts of Standing Orders be suspended for the duration of the Joint Committee, to enable local councillors to speak at the meetings due to the potential impact of the proposals on their residents.
The Members of the Joint Committee debated this request. It was discussed that requests to speak within six months could be considered if the programme had reached a different stage. It was discussed that while the views of local members were relevant, it was important to retain standing orders in order to manage time at the meetings. Following the debate the Joint Committee:
RESOLVED: That requests to speak at meetings of the Joint Committee would be considered on an ad hoc basis and consideration given to the suspension of standing orders around deputations on a case by case basis.
The Members of the Joint Committee debated this request. It was discussed that requests to speak within six months could be considered if the programme had reached a different stage. It was discussed that while the views of local members were relevant, it was important to retain standing orders in order to manage time at the meetings. Following the debate the Joint Committee:
RESOLVED: That requests to speak at meetings of the Joint Committee would be considered on an ad hoc basis and consideration given to the suspension of standing orders around deputations on a case by case basis.
9
Hampshire Together Programme - progress so far
To receive an overview of the ‘Hampshire Together – Modernising our Hospitals and Health Services’ programme, progress to date and next steps.
Attachments:
- Document 2020-12-18 - Hampshire Together JHOSC paper 10 Dec 2020
- Document 2020-12-18 Appendix 1 - Hampshire Together Listening Document 10 Dec 2020
- Document 2020-12-18 Appendix 2 - Engagement Report Summary 10 Dec 2020
Minutes
The Joint Committee received a report and supporting presentation from the Chief Executive of Hampshire Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust and the Hampshire and Isle of Wight Partnership of Clinical Commissioning Groups (see Item 9 in the Minute Book). The report provided an update on the development of proposals for the future of hospital services in North and Mid Hampshire under the programme ‘Hampshire Together – Modernising our Hospitals and Health Services’ that were being prepared for consultation in 2021.
Members heard that it was planned to initiate a public consultation on the proposals in mid to late May 2021 to avoid the consultation being open during the pre-election period leading in to local elections in early May. Members discussed the proposals and gave feedback on issues including the importance of public transport access to hospitals and parking for staff.
RESOLVED:
The Joint Committee note the update.
Members heard that it was planned to initiate a public consultation on the proposals in mid to late May 2021 to avoid the consultation being open during the pre-election period leading in to local elections in early May. Members discussed the proposals and gave feedback on issues including the importance of public transport access to hospitals and parking for staff.
RESOLVED:
The Joint Committee note the update.
10
Plans for Consultation
To consider and provide feedback on the plans for public consultation on the proposals.
Attachments:
- Document 2020-12-18 Hampshire Together Consultation Plan 10 Dec 2020
Minutes
The Joint Committee considered the draft ‘Our Consultation Plan’ document and received a presentation summarising the content (see Item 10 in the Minute Book). Members commented on the plans for how to consult including suggestions that the Learning Disability Partnership Board be consulted and that efforts be made to establish the views of hard to reach groups.
RESOLVED:
The Joint Committee:
1. Support the plan for public consultation on the proposals.
2. Agree the proposed timing for future meetings in connection with the consultation period.
3. Agree to receive interim written updates between meetings where relevant.
RESOLVED:
The Joint Committee:
1. Support the plan for public consultation on the proposals.
2. Agree the proposed timing for future meetings in connection with the consultation period.
3. Agree to receive interim written updates between meetings where relevant.
11
Next Steps
To consider the timing of future meetings of the Joint Committee and any requests for what information the Committee would like to see at future meetings.
Minutes
Regarding information that could be provided to the Joint Committee in future it was requested that this include:
· Modelling of patient flows
RESOLVED:
The next meeting of the Joint Committee would potentially take place in February 2021, to provide an update on the latest position and outline the forward timeline where possible.
· Modelling of patient flows
RESOLVED:
The next meeting of the Joint Committee would potentially take place in February 2021, to provide an update on the latest position and outline the forward timeline where possible.
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